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02-15-2015 , 01:12 PM
Yeah Torres is a steal. Good move.

Also, this thread has been a brilliant opportunity for Zeestein to show just how much of a **** he is.
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02-15-2015 , 01:17 PM
Im taking David Silva

Team m_h

RVP
David Beckham
David Silva
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02-15-2015 , 01:21 PM
David silva elite
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02-15-2015 , 01:24 PM
Silva better than most of the 2nd rounders tbh.
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02-15-2015 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
Also, this thread has been a brilliant opportunity for Zeestein to show just how much of a **** he is.
Yeah his shtick is pretty exhausting at this volume.
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02-15-2015 , 01:27 PM
Not sure about Torres here tbh.
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02-15-2015 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel
Yeah his shtick is pretty exhausting at this volume.
he's getting uber predictable
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02-15-2015 , 01:48 PM
Torres pick is interesting as his career in the PL is basically a mirror to Suarez/Ronaldo picks. If he had retired instead of going to Chelsea I'm pretty sure he would be consensus wide top 10 pick.
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02-15-2015 , 01:53 PM
Torres at Plop was utterly sick and outrageously good. Remember how he use to run Vidic wild and get him sent off all the time.

Alonso and he were key in getting that Plop team runners up medals.
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02-15-2015 , 01:55 PM
Its peak right? Torres is a steal if so
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02-15-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mw828
is this a real story?
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Originally Posted by Bill Ageo
Yeah, lampard as well
It was Terry, Lampard, Jody Morris, and Frank Sinclair.

They were all drunk and laughed at/taunted American tourists at/near Heathrow. They were all fined two weeks' wages, then Chelsea donated those wages to a 9/11 survivors/relatives fund.
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02-15-2015 , 02:32 PM
remember arguing with 2p2 about whether pirlo was past it 5 years ago

think i went into bat for ibra and robben also, seems crazy to think about but yeah

most ppl here are quite bad at understanding football and knowing what they don't know, as in they don't really know how to improve. it's one of those topics unlike, say, medicine where the ignorant have this power of conviction behind them and can be massively butthurt when you tell them they don't know anything. like most yall are pretty smart and probably not dropkicks at life and are passionate, but that doesn't mean you understand the tactical stuff all that well.

there are 2 advantages in football, tactical (3 in a triangle vs 2 in a line trying to defend the space) or qualitative (messi isolated against some poor bloke from the pub or big sam's world beating set piece machine of having lots of big blokes against bunch of midgets). what the quality means is the ability to create a chance against equal or inferior numbers and that means the overall package of verticality/dribbling and vision and shooting

how you value player really revolves around these 2 things minus all the narrative bs stuff, probably shouldn't cast myself as some expert beyond that of a guy who isn't going to do the whole hard yards of lolcoaching badges but is adept at iteratively figuring out stuff to help figure out more stuff
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02-15-2015 , 02:40 PM
Someone should make a zeestien drinking game based on one of those bingo cards for whenever he comes out with another of his super standard predictable memes all based on diigging a trench for everyone else whilst putting himself on a pedastal.

Spoiler:
small dick confirmed
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02-15-2015 , 02:47 PM
Torres is great value as is David Silva
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02-15-2015 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ceire
Its peak right? Torres is a steal if so
No it's not peak. Whole Premiership career is taken into account.
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02-15-2015 , 03:07 PM
Teddy Sheringham



The extra yard is in his head.

Teddy is exactly the sort of player who I wanted in the team. Great range of passing, great finisher, a great goalscorer. He was a great header of the ball as well.

A highly intelligent player, peaked at Tottenham where undrafted said he was the "most intelligent strike partner I ever had".



Top goalscorer in the inaugural EPL season, Teddy managed to score 147 times in 418 games, that's a pretty great record for someone who brings so much more than goals to the team.

Moved to Man Utd at the age of 31 to replace Cantona and won 3 EPL titles, a CL and an FA cup.




Won PFA player of the year at the age of 35 in 00/01.

Before spells back at Tottenham, at Portsmouth and West Ham.

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02-15-2015 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeDiego
No it's not peak. Whole Premiership career is taken into account.
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Re Peak vs Career

I assume peak is considered the level of play they displayed over the best years of their time in the PL. So players who suffered horrible injuries and then faded away are judged on their pre-injury peak and players who had one outstanding season in the middle of an otherwise good but not great career are considered just to have been running hot for a bit.
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Of course; a good summation.
So Torres is Liverpool only baby.
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02-15-2015 , 04:28 PM
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So Torres is Liverpool only baby.
Definitely should have gone ahead of Drogba then.
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02-15-2015 , 04:32 PM
Re: peaks:

We're drafting players, not careers. How much a player contributed per game is generally more important than how much they contributed in total over the sum of their career.

In the OP, that definition is closer to 'peak' than full career for me. Edit - now seen the post a few above. That's as I understood it

Makes me worry about my next picks as peakers, but if I'm after Torres I'm ok with either
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02-15-2015 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazyKris
It was Terry, Lampard, Jody Morris, and Frank Sinclair.

They were all drunk and laughed at/taunted American tourists at/near Heathrow. They were all fined two weeks' wages, then Chelsea donated those wages to a 9/11 survivors/relatives fund.
Eiður Guðjohnsen as well iirc.
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02-15-2015 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Someone should make a zeestien drinking game based on one of those bingo cards for whenever he comes out with another of his super standard predictable memes all based on diigging a trench for everyone else whilst putting himself on a pedastal.

Spoiler:
small dick confirmed
Sick verticalizer = Finish your drink.
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02-15-2015 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx
Eiður Guðjohnsen as well iirc.

Eidur was there but was almost certainly on the fruit machine (slots for you out west) and not involved in the actual offence
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02-15-2015 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cortez451
Definitely should have gone ahead of Drogba then.
man, quit while you're behind
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02-15-2015 , 04:45 PM
Good stuff so far. Following and interested to see what happens especially in the later rounds but me think that despite PBAL's explanation standardizing the selection process and the value of each player in this makes it really hard to pick and hurts the value of such drafts.
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02-15-2015 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ageo
Eidur was there but was almost certainly on the fruit machine (slots for you out west) and not involved in the actual offence
I'm from Iceland and I'm sure I recall it being reported on the news here that he was involved.
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