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I am interested in betting if we can sub out top 3 in MVP voting to something like QBR and we can wait and see if the jets can get the combo between their o-line + pass catchers to something slightly below league avg or better. I think he gets way too much negative PR for him to win MVP again no matter how he plays.

That's fair, I'd do QBR. Probably should also be worded like "Rodgers starts less than 2 games after week 7" to account for him not playing at all or getting a week 18 start in a meaningless game.

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Fraudgers would def earn a ton of street cred if he played next season without wearing a helmet

Pretty sure he would have gotten a ton of street cred over the Covid issue had he said "FU Roger not doing that ****!" instead of misleading everyone on purpose by claiming the immunized stuff.

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01-05-2024 , 09:15 PM

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Pretty sure he would have gotten a ton of street cred over the Covid issue had he said "FU Roger not doing that ****!" instead of misleading everyone on purpose by claiming the immunized stuff.

You're feelings are valid

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01-05-2024 , 09:51 PM

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I'm a Love hater like some people here are with tua. But he is probably also good enough that you just gotta roll with him for a while.

shame for him he signed that dumb 1yr contract extension in the offseason

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01-05-2024 , 10:00 PM

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Pretty sure he would have gotten a ton of street cred over the Covid issue had he said "FU Roger not doing that ****!" instead of misleading everyone on purpose by claiming the immunized stuff.

That Strat didn’t help Djokovic’s pr too much, albeit I think he’s more disliked than Karen and also I do think he might have done some lying at one point

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01-05-2024 , 10:06 PM

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That Strat didn’t help Djokovic’s pr too much, albeit I think he’s more disliked than Karen and also I do think he might have done some lying at one point

again, valid feelings. and Djokovic has never been the same since.

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01-05-2024 , 10:29 PM

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again, valid feelings. and Djokovic has never been the same since.

7 Grand Slams since 2021? 3 last year?

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01-05-2024 , 10:40 PM

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Why does anyone use QBR as some yardstick? Kaep still has the greatest game of all time according to QBR - 10/16 for 164 yards 1 TD, and 7 for 54 on the ground with 2 TDs. Truly the greatest QB performance we've ever seen. QBR has Minshew better than Tua this year

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it isn’t like Dillon is a bum.

You've got to be joking.

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01-05-2024 , 10:57 PM

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it’s flawed but it’s the most well rounded available QB stat we have

Pff rating is the other one but a) a lot of people think they know better than pff and b) it’s hard to get all the rankings in one place without a subscription

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01-05-2024 , 11:01 PM

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DVOA?

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01-05-2024 , 11:26 PM

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I think QBR, Success, EPA/DB and the ol' school passer rating are a decent measuring stick.

Taking the top 5 (min 400 attempts) in each category, there's only 5 QBs that appear in at least 3 of the 4.

Brock
Dak
Tua
Lamar
Allen

Hard to argue those weren't the best QBs (regardless of the talent around them) this season.

Maybe Stroud could have been in there if he didn't miss those games.

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01-05-2024 , 11:28 PM

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That Strat didn’t help Djokovic’s pr too much, albeit I think he’s more disliked than Karen and also I do think he might have done some lying at one point

Isn't Djokovic a hero in Europe's version of the alt-right movement? I'd think he improved his street cred on that side of the road. The other side never liked him anyway since he's some kind of ultra-nationalist.

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01-05-2024 , 11:42 PM

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DVOA?

Yep, this would work. Not standard currency in here though…probably should be

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01-06-2024 , 04:07 PM

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I was not big on Love going into this year but I think it was a bad take, he seems decent+.

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01-07-2024 , 01:38 PM

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My posts, from the offseason thread in July:

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If I had to pick six right now, I'd probably go:

New England
Arizona
Indianapolis
Las Vegas
Green Bay
Tampa Bay

I'd like to pick Carolina, Atlanta, Tennesse and Houston as well, but I think overloading the pick-six-to-miss prop with interdivision teams is not great. I think the AFCS and NFCS are the two widest-open divisions.

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Okay, have to check the oddsmakers to see how bad I am. Odds to miss playoffs from b365:

NE -320
ARZ -2500
IND -500
LV -500
GB -230
TB -550

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CAR -225
ATL -150
TEN -330
HOU -850

Other ones I overlooked are LAR (-330), WAS (-370) and DEN (-240).

So I'm live to get anywhere from four to six of my picks correct, depending on how today shakes out.

Was bang on that both South divisions were most gettable, but also thought 6 of those 8 teams were terrible. I guess it just speaks to how much parity exists this year.

Houston at -850 and LAR -330 already locked in is pretty wild. IND -500 (until last night), GB -230, TB -550 and god forbid ATL -150 all live to make.

Pick 6 is always tough, but it's also always hilarious when you look back at it in hindsight. Was so confident early season in CIN and LAC.

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01-07-2024 , 01:51 PM

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Live on Miami finishing 12-5

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as much as i hate to say it,
i believe tua will miss at least 25% of the season due to lingering effects.
hard time convincing myself any season total prop bet with him involved could be anything but the under

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So they'll finish 12-5

I'll take it

Still live on the Bucs, but am ready to lol when they lose to Carolina

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I have a hard time seeing the Bucs not winning the NFCS again.

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01-07-2024 , 06:56 PM

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More than anything else this weekend (now that the Eagles are losing horribly), I want the Raiders to beat the Broncos.

I’m finding myself rooting heavily for Payton to lose and lose heavily and consistently

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01-07-2024 , 07:10 PM

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the amount of time and effort spent pressing keys in defense of someone you never met

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01-07-2024 , 07:13 PM

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just saw your quote post newguy
happy to be proven wrong

hypothesis was based upon lingering injury effects
he didn't suffer from them
win win

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01-07-2024 , 07:19 PM

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We live in a world where Sam ****ing Darnold will be the most coveted qb in free agency

While I hope for heels’ sake it won’t be the panthers I would find it absolutely hilarious if it is

Boncos or raiders kinda seem like the best fit

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01-07-2024 , 07:29 PM

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We live in a world where Sam ****ing Darnold will be the most coveted qb in free agency

Over Kirk Cousins?

Baker Mayfield also had a surprisingly good (or not terrible) season.

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01-07-2024 , 07:32 PM

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Cousins and mayfield aren’t going anywhere

Niners aren’t keeping Darnold

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01-07-2024 , 07:42 PM

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yeah not great, bob ... cousins, tannyhill, baker, dobbs, minshew, flacco, browning (rfa), tyrod, siemian, stick, lock, rudolph, brissett, mariota, jameis

choose ur fighter
(draw again aka draft)

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01-07-2024 , 07:43 PM

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Cousins and mayfield aren’t going anywhere

Niners aren’t keeping Darnold

Cousins to the Broncos is a live possibility. Also, iirc Vikings can't franchise him

also, Gardner Minshew will be a far more attractive FA than Darnold. I'd also guess Tannehill and Flacco get more than Darnold.

And I'd also guess Jimmy G will get cut and be out there again

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01-07-2024 , 07:49 PM

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NFC West QB Power Rankings

1. Sam Darnold
2. Brock Purdy
3. Carson Wentz
4. Geno Smith
5. Matthew Stafford
6. The little guy on a $230 million contract