1. BAL
2. CLE
3. MIA
4. DET
5. PHI

I mean he’s probably done for the year

Won the battle lost the war and all that

1. LAC
2. LAR
3. DAL
4. BUF
5. TB

Purdy seems like a lock to be the next Mahomes.

Great start to a career when he’s surrounded by elite weapons, the league tries to push the MVP label on them, good looking dudes, very marketable & talk of elite or even GOAT convo. As the weapons around them start to move on the elite/goat talk starts dying down, the GMs of these guys realize they need help so they continue to surround them by well above avg weapons, they have a few years where they play like they are top 10 pass throwers with the above avg weapons but ultimately we all wake up one day and realize Mahomes and Purdy never deserved a MVP award or to be in the GOAT convo. Solid QBs though.

1. Ravens
2. Browns
3. Vikings
4. Bungles
5. Bills

scamming dan colman for millions will do that to you

I don't know what teams the other players had this week, but if he had an out with NWE ML for some serious change it could make sense. He could chop for a better deal to more than cover the $ lost on NWE, and at +295 he would only need to bet $400k or so.

If those guys are not hedging with big ML dogs they are losing some value and adding risk.

can CBS just flex dolphins/ravens to 4 next week? thats really gonna be a 1pm game?

fails to include EV of one of this week's eliminated scheming to kill sean

Interesting matchup week 18 Rams @ 9ers.

Rams could play spoiler to 9ers bye week chances assuming PHI wins out. Also how Shanahan responds if Purdy has another disaster like tonight.

No love lost between McVay and Shanahan. That stunt McVay pulled when they played earlier this season, kicking a FG down 10 last play of the game to cover the spread was embarrassing.

Pretty hot take but if anything these QBs who run hot seem to look for the miracle plays way too much. People can gripe about Mayfield, but he knows what his job is: get the ball to playmakers and don't try the hero stuff.

Tua wins the mvp award next week

NFL POWER RANKINGS - WEEK 16

ELIte

1. Ravens (12-3)
2. Niners (11-4)

If that was a Superbowl preview, I'm down with it.

Solid teams...?

3. Bills (9-6)
4. Dolphins (11-4)
5. Cowboys (10-5)
6. Eagles (11-4)
7. Lions (11-4)
8. Rams (8-7)

Things get very confusing if the Dolphins top the Ravens next week. Reek will be back at full health, and IMO he's one of the few weapons in the league that can break that D. Speed will kill that secondary.

Eventually playoff bound?

9. Browns (10-5)
10. Chiefs (9-6)
11. Seahawks (8-7)
12. Jaguars (8-7)
13. Texans (8-7)
14. Bucs (8-7)

Browns D is obviously legit, but you know Flacco is going to go fullly ELITE $120M Flacks (and I mean that in a bad way) at some point. This can't carry on forever. Also just shut down Amari and how do they score. Should also be interesting to see how this AFCS gongshow finishes up.

Nobody really knows if these teams are good or bad

15. Colts (8-7)
16. Packers (7-8)
17. Broncos (7-8)
18. Vikings (7-8)
19. Bengals (8-7)
20. Saints (7-8)

Lots of 7's and 8's.

Most people know these teams aren't good

21. Steelers (8-7)
22. Jets (6-9)
23. Falcons (7-8)
24. Bears (6-9)
25. Raiders (7-8)

Congrats to all the teams in this tier for winning. They all still think though.

Everyone knows these teams are bad

26. Chargers (5-10)
27. Titans (5-10)
28. Giants (5-10)
29. Commanders (4-11)
30. Cardinals (3-12)
31. Pats (4-11)
32. Panthers (2-13)

I mean pretty much every team from about 10 to 25 is a total mess. None of them are real.

Interesting niche Brock is carving out.

When he does good, silent resignation. It's just known and understood and there isn't much to say about him crushing.

When he does bad, the haters come out and celebrate. Failing to realize they are complimenting him. Him doing bad is so rare it's cause for celebration. Mahomes doesn't even get this treatment, he has bad games often enough it isn't that noteworthy. But Purdy shitting the bad - time to pop the champagne and set off some fireworks.

You know who else was like that? Tom Brady. So many similarities between them.

Is this how people are legitimately starting to feel about mahomes?

He seems slower this year and looks out of shape, like fatter. All of the commercials and partying with Taylor Swift seem to be catching up to him.

Amateur

I think he's still riding his peak physically, but mostly just regressing back to the mean on some of the high variance hero plays, and showing that the supporting cast matters and it wasn't just him making his receivers look elite.

He's still v v good and as long as Reid sticks around I think he has some SB equity every year, but this season is making me lol at all the early media stories of "zomg could Mahomes be the one to win more rings than Bardy" and "Mahomes has most passing yards and TDs in history by age 24 years 8 months 17.3 days" graphics you'd see early on. When a QB has success right away, sure it's nice to project that out like he's gonna have 15 injury-free years of the same thing, but that **** is fragile as hell.

if the absolute worst 11-4 team ever (Eagles) want to backdoor the 1 seed, they have to win out and hope both the Lions and the Niners each lose one

best chance for the Lions to lose ironically is the Cowboys


man the NFL is awesome

Its kinda crazy that the Chefs, Broncos and Raiders are still live to win the AFC West, although the Chefs are in a much better spot. Three weeks ago people would have laughed in your face if you said the Broncos or Raiders could win the AFC West.

The Lions being the Lions they’ll probably lose both, but if they’re playing for the bye Week 18 I’d unload the clip on the Vikings.

I still would take Mahomes over any QB in the league, slightly ahead of Allen/Lamar but obviously you come into the league with Kelce/Hill in their primes with Reid coaching and that is a goatish setup if there ever was 1.

I know wEaPonZ always felt like a convenient way to say "ya, y'all fish underrating Brady" (and you were, to be fair) but yes, the talent around a QB really does matter a lot.

comparing purdy to brady and mahomes is some strong delusion.

purdy is a very good system QB with great accuracy. he is not someone who can take over a game or who anyone would fear more than brady or mahomes in a postseason 2 minute drill.

he is the beneficiary of having CMC, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, and Shanahan, all of whom combine to generate next level separation -- like 2 standard deviations above the next best team. simply watching any SF game where he is "crushing" would show you this, metrics will as well. he consistently finds receivers flashing wide open without a defender within 3 yards. MVP!

compare to chiefs WRs who are generating bottom-5 separation levels and stratospheric drop rates (more than double league average, way beyond 2nd worst team)

people have repeatedly posted purdy's god-like EPA stats in this thread as proof that he is the second coming and deserving of mvp, without acknowledging that it's a worthless stat in isolation for QBs and jake browning was ranked 2nd in EPA heading into this week.

if MVP means "qb on the best team in football" then, sure, brock purdy being a -250 fave made some sense.
if it means best player (or adding most WAR) among good teams, then just lol if you have eyes.

This is a take for talk radio but I do think wrt kelce that the swift stuff is impacting him some, yesterday when he had his tantrum and throws his helmet when they're down 10 just seemed so bizarre. You're down 10 at home to the Raiders, a team you reeled off like 28pts against a few weeks ago and you're tilting that hard? It's like he knows the cameras are constantly on him now. Seems to be pressing from the added scrutiny/spotlight.

Kelce started yesterday's game with a drop, that probably didn't help. It's also not like he didn't have tantrums in the past. He's the guy who threw a flag at a ref. Generally speaking people like him for that fire though, at least in KC.

They even showed some WR stats during the game. They're one of the worst groups in the league in basically every metric. Outside of rookie Rice they all have shown for other teams that they're not very good so nobody should be too surprised about that. The only confusing thing is that the same WR room (-Rice +JuJu) was good enough to win a SB last year. Other than Rice none of them would be among WR 1-3 at any other team in playoff contention.