What evidence do you guys think Kaep's lawyers had?

Collusion not the easiest thing to prove. And the "Pederman's game tape" joke has already been said.

I doubt he had that much of a case (even tho he is obv right) but NFL just didn't wanna go down this road.

Collusion evidence is a player like Peterman is starting in the NFL and Kaep's sitting on the sidelines. Even in some weird bizzaro world, there is no way he doesn't get a shot at QB if they're trying to field the best players. His off the field antics aren't that disruptive.

While he might not be a top 15 QB in the NFL; he's definitely a top 60 QBs in the world.

There's always the Raiders.

That isn't collusion. That's 32 teams independently making the decision that Kaep isn't worth the PR issues/backlash. And if you think he is a marginal starter/backup, then it is pretty easy to come to that conclusion.

They must have atleast had some evidence. Maybe proof he came up at an owners meeting or something.

Wtf does he care about his trade value? He might be dumb for potentially hindering future contracts, but not his trade value.

The Steelers are going to have to eat all the signing bonus $$$ when they trade him so the new team will get him on 3/$36.5m. He is not doing worse than that as a free agent if he's cut.

So yes, I think he would get a better contract than that, which also included some guaranteed $$$, which the 3/$36.5m does not.

I do.

Orrrr they're just a bunch of racists & should have embraced the Kaep bump like Nike did (9% stock increase the quarter after they started an advertising campaign with him, after declining revenue reports in previous quarters).

DJax & Emmanuel Sanders are on 3/$33.5m/$20m & 3/$33m/$27m respectively, & they were approximately Brown's age when they signed them, & aren't remotely in his league.

His lawyeer can't just say "Peterman sucks, these fools are racist" as to why he isn't in the NFL though. So I wonder what proof they had.

Vox had a piece on it and said the sharing of internal polling was potentially strong evidence, but no real smoking guns.

Antonio Brown: I don't feel valued on this team. I think Ben is allowed to get away with things that nobody else is, calls people out without being able to be called out himself, and that management will bend over backwards to make sure he's happy compared to anyone else. If I'm not valued here then I don't want to be here.


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Ehh...I think that's just price of doing business in the NFL but given AB is 1 of the few WR's in the league that has the same pedigree star power as his star QB, it is tough for him to accept the double standard.

Really the only situation in the NFL like that. Maybe Ryan/Julio but neither 1 of them has any personality so it is all good.


I think that is also probably the reason for the Seattle D/Russell Wilson divide as well, because they were on his level or above him but since he is the franchise QB he got treatment/praise that they didn't.

I haven't read the tweets. I'm more concerned about all the arrests & not showing up for games.

Steelers are obviously lol.

If his trade value gets too low, along with his dead money hit if traded, he might not even get traded.

i dont know enough about contracts to really have a strong opinion in this, but are the steelers getting more than 1 million back regardless of if he's on the team or not? if not, then i'm not taking weak trade offers. he can show up and catch footballs or sit out and lose money at 31 years old..

They might have just paid him to shut up regardless of the legal credibility due to potential future PR fallout.

Plus if it got to a point of owners having to be deposed etc. Horrible look for the NFL.

That being said, it was probably still collusion.

I'd be fine giving up the 66 for AB, maybe the 35 if we got a late round pick in return. Resolves some Carr sucks because of weapons questions and in the window we'd be paying him we've not exactly got anyone decent coming off a rookie contract

I don't get the assumption of collusion. What incentive do they have to collude?

Not looking forward to bahbah politarding this thread.

jfc

Put your big boy hat on. Do men in power like those under them to stay in line?

Discovery tho

Sorting through the contracts related to the Flacco trade stuff...

Case Keenum is set to make $15m in new money this year, $7m of which is guaranteed (& there's a $3m signing bonus on the cap for this year which he was already paid which will count either way).

If the Broncos can trade 1/$15m/$7m of Case Keenum, the Flacco trade will only cost them an additional $3.5m in cap space over where they would have been with Keenum, for a total of $21.5m cap hit for their starting QB.

If the Broncos keep Keenum as a backup, they have a cap hit of $36.5m for the QB position.

If the Broncos release Keenum, they have a cap hit of $28.5m for the QB position, plus whatever they pay their backup.

It's interesting what will happen if teams consider Keenum's contract to be a negative asset, whether the Broncos would be willing to kick in some minimal draft compensation to get that $7m of guarantees off their books.

like for instance this. if the difference between having AB on the roster and having the 66th pick, is 1 million dollars. im just gonna ride with AB and see if he shows up, and if not, oh well.

That is my point. Why is there a need for collusion if all of these evil rich men already don't want any part of kaep before hearing another owner's opinion on him?

AB tanking his trade value and going to the Jets would be A OK with me

So basically if they can trade Keenum they save $7M. If they cut him they lose it?

Yeah. Unless there's offset language I guess, but I highly doubt it. He has $7m of full guaranteed $$$ for 2019.

If you're asking why I used so many words to say that, I was more looking at the cap hit for their QB situation in looking at exactly how dumb this Flacco thing is.