So I guess he didn't play on 96 team then. Revisionist history FTW.

Hakeem wasn't a citizen in 1992, he was in 1996. Duurrrrrr....WOAT posters. Dirk and Nash look American, why don't they play on the 2012 team or the 2008 team.

Shaq arguably is GOAT. He obviously is not as good rookie year, but by 93 he had reached his PER plateau he maintained for years. Nothing against D Rob but even at 21 Shaq was superior physically.

That's not what you ****ing said. You said 1992, Shaq's D was huge. Now you are saying, missing out on Shaq was a big deal. Fine, but you are said 2 completely different things. You are going to get LOL off this board, if you think Shaq's D in 1992 was at the same level as D-Robs. Yes, Shaq's overall play could be argued better but not Shaq's D being better than D-Robs.

So he could not gain citizenship in 92? Give me a break.

Was Rodman a citizen?

Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993
Olajuwon became a naturalized American citizen on April 2, 1993

1993 isn't in 1992. Or is it?

His D was huge. No he didn't make DPOY. I understand. And it is not an argument of D Rob over Shaq. It is an argument of Shaq over Laettner.

Yeah, I guess this is the same as an injury. LOL

This is what you said, no?

I did refute it. And now you are turning this to something to an entirely different direction.

Great arguments on your side again. So basically you are crutching that a couple of 2012 players are injured. No ****, Sherlock. It's pointless to argue injured 2012 vs "healthy" 1992. It's more pointful to argue uninjured 2012 vs healthy 1992--or have you missed that from the get go? What a waste of my 26000th post.

You refuted D Rob was a better defender because of an award? Got it.

92 team wins easily. Jordan would raise his game to who he was playing. A team of some of the greatest players ever to play led by the greatest who ever played the game. You would have to be a total idiot to pick against them.

its just such a bizarre stance. like, how can someone act like they know so much about basketball back then and not be aware of drob's defense.

So ITT we exclude the best available players in 92.

And LOL citizenship being a bigger hurdle than an injury. Ask Chris Kaman.

Fine, you don't like awards. How bout the fact that D-Rob was known as an excellent defender. Fine, one DPOY and also multiple first/2nd teams. Fine that D-rob has been in the NBA for 3 seasons already and D it normally takes more time to develop than O in the league. Shaq was known as a very good defender--not sure ever the best in the league due to D-Rob, Ewing, Mutombo being in the league during much of Shaq's peak. You don't like my arguments--you literally put nothing on your side that would say that Shaq > D-rob on D. I've at least put in some work when you have put nothing e/c saying it.

did you forget to use the sportsradiofan gimmick?

Of course anybody knows anything about 92 can simply dismiss Shaq's D, because he did not get DPOY.

i got shaq probably always being the better defender

LOL D-ROB

you still have to pick american players for the team so the olajuwon argument is lol

yes shaq is >>> laettner, we all know that. however shaq and robinson are basically a wash plus you already have ewing. a third center just as good as the first two is not nearly close to the marginal benefit of replacing anthony davis with howard and having him contribute 30 minutes a game that are >>>>>> chandler/love

Blocks mean anything to you? Rebounds? Does playing for an uninspiring coach mean anything to you?

Fine include Shaq. You really are a TERRIBLE arguer. Again, I have repeatedly said the 1992 team would win it. You are so obtuse and so stupid that it's hard to like your points. Again, who has argued that the 2012 injured team would kill the 1992 team? IT was hardly anyone. Even so, it was mainly trolls. It's more interesting to argue 1992 team vs 2012 team that has its best players and not missing Howard, Bynum, Wade due to injury or some other reason. Again, you don't care about interesting. You care about making really dumb points. 1992 vs 2012 injured is probably like 1992 -10 or something. 1992 vs uninjured 2012, I think is like -2 or -3 1992. I'm sorry I don't like arguing about teams that don't have much of a shot due to injuries--most of which aren't career threatening. But you seem to like to bring it up and then bringing up other items that doesn't really change the argument that much. 1992 in its actual state, 1992 with ideal state are big favorites over 2012 with its injuries.

Look, the citizenship position is stupid. It is a government loophole more than anything. Olajuwon adds a lot to 92. And in a game where defense means something Rodman adds a lot as well.

ITT, where we now try to prove Drob was an inferior defender at any point in his career to Shaq his rookie season. JFC.

You approach injuries as though it is something that can be easily dismissed, as though it is not part of athletics. Then you compare some stupid govt. paperwork thing as though that has equal weight to guys getting older and breaking down.

Then when I bring up the fact that GOAT players were excluded from the 92 squad I am being unreasonable and not playing fair. Sure.