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05-15-2006 , 05:53 AM
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I have some problem with my hand and arm, it's hurting all the time, to much betting? so I think I will try this poky with a gamepad and this script instead, I never had anyone before and my question is, what sort of a gamepad do you suggest I buy? would anyone be good enough? or can someone recommend me a good one?
I'v only tried one, but I'm pretty, pretty happy with it:

http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/p990.htm

Main reason I bought it is the 6 right-side buttons instead of usual 4. With the 3 bottom ones I do all the betting, and compared with a gamepad with 4 right-side buttons, I think it's much easer to bet with this one; less thumb movement.

Adde
hey adde do you use the analog sticks for anything? i just got the xbox controller for pc and i cant really figure out how to configure it with TN. instead of using the d-pad to move to different tables it uses the left analog stick. i would like it to use the d-pad for this though. also i play mainly NL. when i want to increase my bet size i have to press and hold the right trigger. to lower the bet size i press and hold the left trigger. is there any way for me to remap my controller so that i can use the right analog stick to control the slider? another thing is that the bet amount goes up very slowly and when i want to do a decent sized raise my timer gets very close to zero.
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05-15-2006 , 06:43 AM
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You lost me with the $14. You'll have to explain that again. I don't play NL (but I think that should be obvious ).
Sorry, no prob. I just meant that when you have to call a bet, then make a raise, the pot size is no longer what is already in the pot before your call. So, on TN, when I push down on the stick to make a pot sized bet, it counts only what's in the pot before the call.

My example was just saying, that if I want to raise the pot before the flop, in a $2/4 NL game, my raise would be to $14 dollars. There would be $6 in the pot from small and big blind, and once I call the $4 big blind, (assuming nobody has already called or raised) there will now be $10 in the pot. So if I want to raise the pot, I will put in $10 more, or $14 total.

Or, say, if there's $20 in the pot on the flop, and somebody ahead of me bets $20. Now if I push the pot button on TN it will give me a raise to $60, but a pot sized raise would be to $80, b/c there will be $60 in the pot after my call, so i'd need to raise $60 more to make it a pot sized bet.
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05-15-2006 , 07:00 AM
what controller are u using pfkaok?
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05-15-2006 , 07:08 AM
Okay, I think I get it.
Should be easy for Party I think since we can just get the amount we have to add from the "Call" button (I think). Right?
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05-15-2006 , 11:04 AM
call button times number of ppl already bet/called

neat script, btw.
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05-15-2006 , 11:18 AM
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call button times number of ppl already bet/called

Uh, we could calculate the pot size this way perhaps, but we have to parse the text from the chat to find out how many people called anyway, so it's a bit pointless . What I meant was we add the amount from the "call" button to the actual pot size to get a true PSB (if I understood pfkaok correctly).
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05-15-2006 , 11:24 AM
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what controller are u using pfkaok?
I'm using a Logitech, dual action something. Not great, but was only like $20 at Fry's, and is basically a PS2 controller, but doesn't feel quite as nice. Definately works fine though, but i'm considering upgrading since I think I might be playing a lot with it... and probably will ONLY play with the joypad if it gets to work with Party and stars simultaniously.

Anyone have any recommendations for really nice controllers that would work well with this program?


Btw... go warriors. next year will be the year.
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05-15-2006 , 11:27 AM
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Uh, we could calculate the pot size this way perhaps, but we have to parse the text from the chat to find out how many people called anyway, so it's a bit pointless . What I meant was we add the amount from the "call" button to the actual pot size to get a true PSB (if I understood pfkaok correctly)
Yes. I believe that you don't need to factor in the number of callers either. I'm pretty sure that their calls are already factored in the pot size, at least at party. I'd need to check again to make sure, but i'm almost positive that when I push pot after a few limpers preflop that it adds their calls in. just not mine.
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05-15-2006 , 11:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure that their calls are already factored in the pot size, at least at party.
Yes, and not just at Party.
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05-15-2006 , 11:43 AM
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hey adde do you use the analog sticks for anything? i just got the xbox controller for pc and i cant really figure out how to configure it with TN. instead of using the d-pad to move to different tables it uses the left analog stick. i would like it to use the d-pad for this though. also i play mainly NL. when i want to increase my bet size i have to press and hold the right trigger. to lower the bet size i press and hold the left trigger. is there any way for me to remap my controller so that i can use the right analog stick to control the slider? another thing is that the bet amount goes up very slowly and when i want to do a decent sized raise my timer gets very close to zero.
No, I don't (anymore), but I did write some code before to move the mouse with the left analog stick. It got too tedious to use though. I guess it's possibly to hook the current TN code with some custom code that treats the analog stick as if it was the D-pad.

Adde
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05-15-2006 , 11:47 AM
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Okay, I think I get it.
Should be easy for Party I think since we can just get the amount we have to add from the "Call" button (I think). Right?
Okay, I changed it to work like this. Is this okay for everyone or should it be optional?
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05-15-2006 , 11:50 AM
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Okay, I think I get it.
Should be easy for Party I think since we can just get the amount we have to add from the "Call" button (I think). Right?
Okay, I changed it to work like this. Is this okay for everyone or should it be optional?
TY. Of course its OK with me
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05-15-2006 , 12:20 PM
Sorry. I just tested it out, and it still didn't get the pot-betting quite right.

When you're figuring the bet amount, your pot bet will be current pot + 2 * call amount. As it is now, the total bet is only equal to the pot, but the raise should be equal to the pot.

Wait. that fix is so easy I did it, even though i know nothing about AHK.
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05-15-2006 , 12:28 PM
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Wait. that fix is so easy I did it, even though i know nothing about AHK.
Cool.
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05-15-2006 , 12:40 PM
Okay, I edited the Wiki (2*call). Also fixed Stars support which was broken due to the class name of their windows changing all the time.
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05-15-2006 , 12:47 PM
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Wait. that fix is so easy I did it, even though i know nothing about AHK.
Cool.
yeah. even though I just added a * 2, it was fun for me.

again though, sorry for yet another simple fix, but could you possibly add in the option that will allow you to highlight the bet amount? I like using the analog, but there's still times where if I want a 2/3-3/4 pot bet it'll be more efficient to just type in the amount. and maybe i'll even try out one of those fancy things, like


this
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N52


also, btw... does overcards take Pstars, or NETeller transfers? once the multisite usage gets up and running I certainly want to make some kind of donation, since this program is quite awesome.
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05-15-2006 , 01:27 PM
does the bet 1/2 pot and bet pot not work with party play money? oh and this program is amazing!!!

pfkaok...warriors need to get garnett in the offseason for sure
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05-15-2006 , 01:33 PM
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but could you possibly add in the option that will allow you to highlight the bet amount?
Done.
I called it "HighLight", but actually it clears the bet box (and sets focus to it).

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also, btw... does overcards take Pstars, or NETeller transfers? once the multisite usage gets up and running I certainly want to make some kind of donation, since this program is quite awesome.
Uh... Overcards lets us use the Wiki, the forum etc. but TableNavigator isn't really an Overcards project in the way PartPlanner is or anything. I kinda doubt Mogobu wants to handle the donation stuff.
I dunno... maybe Sam can set up a page on amazon again... or maybe we shouldn't even bother since we'd have to split the cash between 7 people or so.
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05-15-2006 , 01:37 PM
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does the bet 1/2 pot and bet pot not work with party play money?
It doesn't work on 50/100 play money because those tables don't have any info about the limit in their title bar for some reason. Should work on all other tables though.

Btw, why are we discussing this under "Pacific Poker support"? Somebody needs to make a new topic.
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05-15-2006 , 01:47 PM
i am testing on the .05/.10 NL play money tables and whenever i try to do the pot or 1/2 pot sized bets the bet amount just clears.
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05-15-2006 , 02:01 PM
I dunno.. maybe they don't work either... try 5/10 or whatever.
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05-15-2006 , 03:32 PM
I changed the PSB code for Stars to work like on Party. You'll have to do the thing with the images again though (I'm guessing everyone missed this, here's the original post about this.
Work with Paint as described, but get the images from the action button instead. Should look like this:



Note: The smaller the pics, the better, but they have to be unique.
Save them in the working directory of TableNavigator in a new folder called "ButtonPics".

I also added four new commands for NL: BetPot, BetHalfPot, SlideUp, SlideDown (the last two in honor of FluffyTortus' request, which he made a long time ago, I know ).
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05-15-2006 , 06:28 PM
what do the slidup and slidedown do? sorry im at work and cant wait til i get home
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05-15-2006 , 06:33 PM
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what do the slidup and slidedown do? sorry im at work and cant wait til i get home
Lol... nothing special, I'm afraid. You can define two keys to in/decrease the bet size (for people who play with their keyboard but dislike using the numpad or want a change I guess).
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05-16-2006 , 10:22 PM
anybody else having a problem binding their right arrow key to the right command? it keeps coming up as 'numberpadright' or something, which is frustrating b/c its clearly not the right arrow on the numberpad =)

it seems like everytime i try to get table nav working i endu up having a new keybinding problem. anybody else?
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