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05-10-2006 , 01:15 PM
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I have some problem with my hand and arm, it's hurting all the time, to much betting? so I think I will try this poky with a gamepad and this script instead, I never had anyone before and my question is, what sort of a gamepad do you suggest I buy? would anyone be good enough? or can someone recommend me a good one?
I'v only tried one, but I'm pretty, pretty happy with it:

http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/p990.htm

Main reason I bought it is the 6 right-side buttons instead of usual 4. With the 3 bottom ones I do all the betting, and compared with a gamepad with 4 right-side buttons, I think it's much easer to bet with this one; less thumb movement.

Adde
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05-11-2006 , 05:24 AM
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What is NLModifier button in the config?
I got rid of the NL modifier because it was too complicated. Just forget all about it.

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How do I activate the bet-size box so I can type in a bet amount?

Currently there's no command for that. I guess we should (optionally) make this the default for people using the numpad.

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In the button config, nothing happens when I try to set a command to punctuation keys. Is there a way to use those keys? Should I just modify the .ini manually to achieve this?
We can add "." and "," I guess. Any others?
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05-11-2006 , 08:32 AM
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I have some problem with my hand and arm, it's hurting all the time, to much betting? so I think I will try this poky with a gamepad and this script instead, I never had anyone before and my question is, what sort of a gamepad do you suggest I buy? would anyone be good enough? or can someone recommend me a good one?
I'v only tried one, but I'm pretty, pretty happy with it:

http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/p990.htm

Main reason I bought it is the 6 right-side buttons instead of usual 4. With the 3 bottom ones I do all the betting, and compared with a gamepad with 4 right-side buttons, I think it's much easer to bet with this one; less thumb movement.

Adde
thanks for the tip it looks nice too
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05-11-2006 , 10:56 AM
Hi all,

I posted this on Overcards.com but no solution so far.

Any ideas from anyone here? Anyone with the same problem?

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I managed to get Plarty Planner working yesterday and tried TN alongside it.


The Joy buttons all worked OK and I could manually switch between tables using the D-pad (occasional error when it could not find a table to go to I think). However, the attention Q did not work as I expected it would.


My tables are spread over a couple of screens and my Lobby is on a third screen on its own (although my system sees the screens as ONE 2400 x 600 screen). There is overlap both horixontally and vertically on each "play" screen (4 almost full size tables per screen) but no overlap between screens.


When a table requires attention it pops up above the other screens OK but the focus does NOT move to the table. The bar that indicates the "active" table remains where it was.


To get there I either need to use the D-pad OR (if I have got this right) if I click the mode button twice it ends up on the active table (the first click goes to "lobby" mode and the second takes it back to "play" and to the correct table.


Any ideas or is TN working as it should and my expectation that the focus moves as well as the table popping up is wrong?


Cheers


Trevor

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05-11-2006 , 11:03 AM
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Any ideas or is TN working as it should and my expectation that the focus moves as well as the table popping up is wrong?

Yeah, you're expectation is wrong. There's a reason it's called TableNavigator - you have to navigate.
What you're looking for is the AttentionQueue. That'll automatically move you from table to table.
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05-11-2006 , 11:15 AM
Paradise support, and FullTilt too (which wasn't really supported).

Adde, I hope I didn't roll over any of the changes you made, but not sure now. Just yell at me if I did.
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05-11-2006 , 11:21 AM
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Paradise support, and FullTilt too (which wasn't really supported).

Adde, I hope I didn't roll over any of the changes you made, but not sure now. Just yell at me if I did.
Nope, looking good, all my previous changes seem to be there.

Adde
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05-11-2006 , 07:04 PM
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We can add "." and "," I guess. Any others?
Why not every key on the keyboard?

Anyway, I won't be using TN until it adds NL bet amount support. No point in using hotkeys,etc. when I still have to highlite the bet amount box with my mouse.
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05-11-2006 , 07:44 PM
Sorry Roland I do not understand

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Yeah, you're expectation is wrong. There's a reason it's called TableNavigator - you have to navigate.
Now I read that and thought "OK, now I know that it does not move the focus"

but THEN....

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What you're looking for is the AttentionQueue That'll automatically move you from table to table.
you wrote this and since I have selected AttentionQueue as my navigation option.(I think I said this in my post), I do not understand why you say that AQ will automatically move me from table to table (is that what you are saying?) - it doesn't

Please help me understand

trevor
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05-12-2006 , 04:06 AM
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Why not every key on the keyboard?

Stuff like / [ } ? Those aren't keys. For instance, you produce "}" by holding down Ctrl+Alt+0, right?
You can't have more than one modifier per hotkey currently though... but I fail to see why you'd need more than one, really.

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Anyway, I won't be using TN until it adds NL bet amount support. No point in using hotkeys,etc. when I still have to highlite the bet amount box with my mouse.
Okay. I did say

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Currently there's no command for that. I guess we should (optionally) make this the default for people using the numpad.
though.
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05-12-2006 , 04:09 AM
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I have selected AttentionQueue as my navigation option.(I think I said this in my post), I do not understand why you say that AQ will automatically move me from table to table (is that what you are saying?) - it doesn't

Oops, you're right. Silly me. I dunno what's wrong with it either though - Sam wrote that. Sam?
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05-12-2006 , 04:42 AM
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Anyway, I won't be using TN until it adds NL bet amount support. No point in using hotkeys,etc. when I still have to highlite the bet amount box with my mouse.
Hm, you should perhaps try the commercial Pro version?!?

Adde
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05-12-2006 , 10:32 AM
will this work for play money games? i want to test this out on them before real money
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05-12-2006 , 10:43 AM
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will this work for play money games? i want to test this out on them before real money
Yep. You can choose "PartyPlayMoney" from the tray menu -> Casinos for instance.
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05-12-2006 , 11:21 AM
thanks!
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05-12-2006 , 03:41 PM
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Stuff like / [ } ? Those aren't keys. For instance, you produce "}" by holding down Ctrl+Alt+0, right?
You can't have more than one modifier per hotkey currently though... but I fail to see why you'd need more than one, really.
On the keyboard there's a key next to the right-shift button that makes / with one press (it also makes ? with shift-press). Around there there are buttons for .,';\][ I know a lot of people use TN for gamepads, but if someone was gonna use it for a keyboard I think it'd be pretty useful to have those keys be used as hotkeys, because it doesn't interfere (much) with typing in say AIM or PP chat.

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Okay. I did say

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Currently there's no command for that. I guess we should (optionally) make this the default for people using the numpad.
though.
I don't understand what you're saying here. Make what the default?

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Hm, you should perhaps try the commercial Pro version?!?

Adde
Don't get me wrong - I fully appreciate the work everyone has put into TN and the other AHK scripts. I didn't mean to detract from that, but I thought part of the idea of this thread was for potential users of the script to provide feedback on desired features, etc.
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05-12-2006 , 05:02 PM
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Don't get me wrong - I fully appreciate the work everyone has put into TN and the other AHK scripts. I didn't mean to detract from that, but I thought part of the idea of this thread was for potential users of the script to provide feedback on desired features, etc.
That's the idea, yes. I know you didn't mean to detract from that, but still I thought your comment sounded kind of harsh. No biggie, no offense, let's move forward.

Adde
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05-12-2006 , 06:23 PM
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Hmm. Ring game or SNG? If ring game, what limit?
OK. Figured might as well move to this thread, since its more appropriate.

I just tried SnG, and it seemed to work, w/ down on stick giving full pot, up giving 1/2 pot, and left and right going up and down by 1/2 SB's.

For ring games though, i've tried a bit on play money, and .1/.25, and also i played $1/2 and $2/4. none of them worked.

any reason it'd work on SNG, but not ring?
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05-12-2006 , 11:52 PM
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That's the idea, yes. I know you didn't mean to detract from that, but still I thought your comment sounded kind of harsh. No biggie, no offense, let's move forward.

Adde
Well, before we move on, let me restate: I'm very interested in using TN, because it looks to have a lot of awesome features, but it would be infeasible for me to since I play NL.
Having said that, and having moved on, I just finished my 3rd year of my Computer Science degree, so I have some requisite knowledge to actually contribute to TN. I haven't done much AHK scripting, and I'm not interested in putting in as much time as the main contributors do, but I'd be interested in working on features that interest me, if I can figure out how to do them. Only if, of course, you guys are interested in that.

About a year ago I made my own crude version of TN that used PostMessage and ControlClick instead of the widely used method (at that time) to move the mouse and use mouseclicks. I stopped using it, however, when I started playing NL and couldn't figure out how to highlite the bet size box. Most of the times it would do it by default, but maybe 1 out of 10 times activating the table wouldn't activate the box, and it became annoying to go back to the mouse to do it.

I saw Roland's (or maybe it was Sam's) code in another thread to increase bet size incrementally, but the feature I'd be most interested in using (or coding) would make it possible to type in the bet size without the use of the mouse. I tried to figure out how to do this with AHK back in the day, but failed. Do you guys have any idea what direction I should look to figure that out?
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05-15-2006 , 03:14 AM
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any reason it'd work on SNG, but not ring?

I think maybe a problem with the "$" sign - I'll look into it.
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05-15-2006 , 03:26 AM
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I saw Roland's (or maybe it was Sam's) code in another thread to increase bet size incrementally, but the feature I'd be most interested in using (or coding) would make it possible to type in the bet size without the use of the mouse. I tried to figure out how to do this with AHK back in the day, but failed. Do you guys have any idea what direction I should look to figure that out?

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to making the codes, but it seems like it should be pretty simple to make a configurable button that would highlight the bet amount box. As you said it only happens 1 out of 10 times or something... but for those times, shouldn't it be easy to have a button that just makes it highlighted once you've got the TN on the proper table?
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05-15-2006 , 04:57 AM
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any reason it'd work on SNG, but not ring?

I think maybe a problem with the "$" sign - I'll look into it.
Fixed it.
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05-15-2006 , 05:10 AM
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I saw Roland's (or maybe it was Sam's) code in another thread to increase bet size incrementally, but the feature I'd be most interested in using (or coding) would make it possible to type in the bet size without the use of the mouse. I tried to figure out how to do this with AHK back in the day, but failed. Do you guys have any idea what direction I should look to figure that out?

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to making the codes, but it seems like it should be pretty simple to make a configurable button that would highlight the bet amount box. As you said it only happens 1 out of 10 times or something... but for those times, shouldn't it be easy to have a button that just makes it highlighted once you've got the TN on the proper table?
Yes, this should be easy (doesn't mean it was easy when Kovner tried... a lot of commands didn't exist yet back then). Basically just "ControlFocus, Edit2, ahk_id%tn_tableID%" I would think.
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05-15-2006 , 05:38 AM
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any reason it'd work on SNG, but not ring?

I think maybe a problem with the "$" sign - I'll look into it.

Fixed it.

Thanks. it works perfect now.

Sorry, for all the requests, but one more for the betpot option... is there anyway that you can make it so it will check if there's a bet to be called, and then factor that in? For example, preflop, if I hit the bet pot button, in a $2/4 game, it will make the bet $6, b/c thats what's in the pot from the blinds. But since the pot will be $10 once I call, a pot raise would be to $14.


Preflop is usually not too bad, since its only 1 extra BB to get the bet up to pot, but for re-raises, or later streets if I want to make a pot-sized raise, it gets a bit more difficult to get with the stick.
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05-15-2006 , 05:50 AM
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But since the pot will be $10 once I call, a pot raise would be to $14.

You lost me with the $14. You'll have to explain that again. I don't play NL (but I think that should be obvious ).
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