If Romney could pull off both Ohio and TN that would pretty much wrap it up don't ya think?

Has it really been around long enough to make much of a statement either way?

There have been studies done.

It was already over when Santorum lost Michigan and got killed in Arizona imo.

YES it's stupid, that's the point.

There IS an equal protection argument against the current state of marriage laws. But it's not about gay people. The law is the same for a gay man as for a straight man. But do you see the problem there? We had to specify "man" (or we could have used "woman") in that sentence. And that is where the problem is: the law is NOT the same for a man and a woman. They have different rules.

If you want to make a logical equal protection argument, there it is.

I would like to see Gingrich and Santorum to see the light. They seem a bit slow.

Santorum and Gingrich are each convinced they'll get the big bump once the other drops out.

The whole primary is beginning to look like the Western Front circa 1915; mud, blood, tears and the endless hope of a breakthrough that never seems to come.

In 2008, roughly 80% of the delegates had been awarded by March 4 and only 12 contests remained.

2012 has only 12 contests to date, with 17% of the total delegates.

If Santorum/Gingrich wants to be pissy they can drag this out till June.

LOL burningsquirrel

Until Adelson stops burning money on Newt he's not going anywhere.

Sure, but...

But we know two other things. One is that Adelson wants to see Barack Obama lose in November. The other is that he does not dislike Mitt Romney. Some people might assume Adelson to be an unusually rich member of the GOP’s anyone-but-Mitt society. Not so, an Adelson associate told me when I profiled the man for last week’s issue. “He is fond of Governor Romney,” the associate said. “He’s made it clear that in no way, shape or form is [Adelson's support of Gingrich] meant to signal dissatisfaction with governor Romney or his campaign.” Specifically, Adelson does not have qualms about Romney’s views of Israel and Middle East policy, which is what seems to drive Adelson’s politics. (Click here to see a shot of Romney schmoozing with Adelson–who, I’ll admit, seems to be regarding the candidate with some skepticism–at a Republican Jewish Coalition meeting at Adelson’s Venetian hotel and casino last April.) Adelson has backed Gingrich out of friendship and loyalty, and perhaps slight policy preference–Gingrich is more strident than Romney on Israel policy–but not because he dislikes or fears Romney.



Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/03...#ixzz1oDQ0u1lA

I'm definitely for same sex marriages, but opponents have a trivial response to the bolded part.

The law is, in fact, the same for a man and a woman. The are both allowed to marry people of the opposite sex and can't marry people of the same sex.

So interracial marriage bans (and all legal segregation) are kosher under that standard.

The problem is you have to have two (or more) separate classes of people for those types of laws to work. And that sort of paradigm is generally rejected.

The reason most people reject this is that they at some level recognize that a rule that says "you can do A if you're X and B if you're Y" is really two rules smooshed together. Artificially creating classes of people makes it easier to sneak these sort of compound rules in and make them look simple.

I hope he gets behind Mittens after he takes down the nom

This doesn't necessarily follow from what I wrote. Race and sex are different things. For example, we can have men's and women's restrooms, but it doesn't follow that we can then have separate restrooms for blacks and whites.

Once again, just playing devil's advocate here.

Watching Meet the Press today. It so irritates me when candidates (in this case newty newt) don't get called out repeating lies like "Barack Obama voted for infanticide" and "Emergency contraception is an abortion pill"

Adelson has already stated he will coalesce behind the nominee when the time comes.

PPP Ohio

Romney 37
Santorum 36
Gingrich 15
Paul 11

Newt is just using up the last of his oxygen. After he drops, he will become irrelevant to everyone, but maybe the childrens book circuit. Even Fox probably won't have him for many segments.

He has no real constituency, no power base, no voice in the party. No one cares anymore what he says.

Lobbying tho

just right up to that line. Because the lawyers got right on the matter

Yeah I think that is how they are thinking, but they have waited so long I'm not sure if that's even true anymore. They had a huge window of opportunity but it is closing/closed.

The problem now is that the only result that would be bad enough to get either to drop out, would likely be so good for Romney it no longer matters.

Only possible scenario is IF Santorum wins OH and TN and OK, and Gingrich only does well in GA, then there is a tiny sliver of hope for Santorum, if Newt was to pack it in at that point and endorse him.

For Gingrich he would need Santorum to lose Ohio and drop out, leaving him a chance in the southern states coming up, but Newt is so hated everywhere else it wouldn't really matter.

Santorum needed Newt to drop out after he had his big 3-win night, then he likely wins Michigan/Ohio and the whole narrative of the race would have changed.

Of course, Frothy is still a horrible candidate who says ludicrous things, so he probably would have lost in the end anyway.

Is this thread in some kind of weird endless loop for anyone else? I can't see page 207, it just keeps reloading page 206.

Weird it's only doing it on Firefox on my desktop. So bizarre.

I think clearing your cache, history, or cookies fixes that issue. can't remember which.

It happens if I delete the post that was at the top of the page. Your cache tries to take you to a post that no longer exists.