There Will Be Blood.

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If I were talented, I'd shop Newt's face onto the StayPuft Marshmallow Man and Frothy, Paul, and Romney onto the Ghostbusters and make it into an animated gif. But I'm not talented nor idle enough

Wow.

Ron Paul gonna crush this ****ing debate


this could be ****ing huge for him

I remember reading it more that once earlier in the cycle where some people were downplaying the debates saying that no one watches them, nothing gets said, and they basically don't matter. It's totally possible that I'm misremembering that as more commonly said than it is though.

Even more amazing than the turn of events in SC and Fla is the media's continuing blindness to Romney's unpopularity, particularly in the south. The south does not like Mitt Romney. He seems too much like a member of the hated "elite.

I saw the roundtable on Meet the Press and they were still sticking with the line "Romney has the organization/money in Florida", "SC is a wacky state", "Romney will clearly be the nominee in the end" plotline. I think the reason they are so clueless is because they are members of the Republican block who is actually voting for Romney: well-educated, wealthy, urban. But that is not exactly the coalition to win a Republican nomination.

I've never seen such a disconnect between the media analysis and what is actually happening. That's not so say Mitt can't win - he still has the northern states. But this idea that the south would suddenly fall behind Romney was laughable from the start.

No it couldn't.

You're setting yourself up to be hurt again.

Random MN Poll

Odds on Newt withdrawing from the race after he locks up or receives the nomination? I likely would wager a healthy sum he does.

They would have to drop code and racism for this, essentially abandon Nixon's southern strategy. If you look at some polling, a lot of 30k/yr southern whites view themselves as well-off. It is a residual of thee at least I am not a n----- rhetoric from the twentieth century. Class warfare to them is taking their government welfare and giving it to blacks who should be janitoring at 12 since they don't know how to work. Once you start down the populist path with policy, you awake their fears of more money going to blacks. It is a Republican non-starter.

They don't take "toxic" companies. They buy ones that are vulnerable, but have enough assets to sell or borrow against. A lot are poorly run, but they are rarely at death's door basket cases. How can something that transfers tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in passive income to idle people while tossing middle-class people in the street with no safety net be beneficial?

So I just had cause to read Yeats's "The Second Coming." Tell me this isn't about Mitt Romney's campaign:

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

This.... Newt has a legit chance to make obama look like a stuttering fool in a debate.

I'll take that bet.

They're not idle people, duder. They're job creators.

witness

You're seeing home field Newt. General election debates will be neutral and required to be silent. Most feature preapproved questions. Newt thrives on grandiose and hostile rhetoric. That excites the home crowd, but disgusts independents. The last time Gingrich competed on rhetoric and charisma with a dem, Bill utterly and completely destroyed him.

IDK about that jonas, but I admittedly don't have a firm grasp on political theater when I was 10.

It will definitely be more interesting debate with newt up there instead of mitt.

I'm still bitter I wasn't hired to landscape Romneylawn when he wasn't running for office.

There is a huge consensus that Clinton won the public aspects of their mid-90s confrontations.

Again, I really don't have much on this, but didn't Newt win the early rounds while Clinton won the later rounds?

Newt became Speaker in 95, the government shut down, he was faulted the most and Clinton handily won re election. Newt was a popular part of the 94 elections, but he wasn't pitted personally against Clinton until he was in power. Both men suffered from the Lewinsky/impeachment debacle. Newt's constantly combative and undisciplined rhetoric made it harder to oppose Clinton than it should have been. Newt is like the best Player in your home game, but when he goes to play with the big boys he just can't adjust to people who add discipline to theory and talent.

Barack Obama

I think the quote must be in another thread that I can't find right now, but who was it who was saying that Mitt's attacks are boring and his delivery sucks? I haven't seen video, but

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...2KQ_story.html

Really? "Could maybe possibly represent evidence that my opponent maybe could have done something that's potentially somewhat wrongful but I'm not even sure what kind of potentially sort of wrongful activity it is!" That's the best he's got?