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no one is advocating preemptive attacks on cops, but when they are beating people and riding their cars or motorcycles into them they deserve to get ****ed up. i'd love to see these protesters defend themselves.

to quote the john adams show,

"It's one thing to turn the other cheek, but to lie down like a SNAKE and crawl to the seat of power..."

Nonviolent resistance is clearly the EV play. You don't escalate the violence and you win support for your cause rather than lose it. Takes discipline though.

10-16-2011 , 12:20 PM

#7852

sterlinguini

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Lol at the irony of libertarians, whose entire MO is to sit and bitch on the interwebz, lecturing protesters who are actually out there doing something, on the finer points of when to get violent with the cops.

And your MO is to bitch on the interwebz about libertarians bitching on the interwebz?

What's a forum for if not to discuss/bitch anyway??

What's your point again?

10-16-2011 , 12:25 PM

#7853

[Phill]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

They only bitch on the internet because they dont want to have to go rambo on the police. I believe the understood ratio is that one libertarian is worth 25 police and 5 soldiers if it comes down to violence.

10-16-2011 , 12:41 PM

#7854

FlyWf

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I think seeing how the police respond to something that is actually a threat to the status quo is kinda shaking some world views.

10-16-2011 , 12:59 PM

#7855

Case Closed

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

Why do you advocate coercion?

10-16-2011 , 01:02 PM

#7856

ASPoker8

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

A few people say something does not equal "libertarians ______"

I'd argue that myself and the majority of libertarian-leaning people are extremely non-violent.

10-16-2011 , 01:04 PM

#7857

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by sterlinguini

And your MO is to bitch on the interwebz about libertarians bitching on the interwebz?

What's a forum for if not to discuss/bitch anyway??

What's your point again?

That I've never seen a libertarian actually *do* anything except complain about govt. For years libertarians have been bitching about a lot of the same things OWS is out there protesting about. Now that something is actually happening, you (LirvA anyway) constantly nitpick and complain "but what has it accomplished?" "protesters should be more violent".

It's like the difference between a movie critic complaining about the state of movies and some kid saying "you know what, I'm going to make Swingers". Except the movie critic is still nit-picking the kid while he's trying to make the movie.

10-16-2011 , 01:40 PM

#7858

General Tsao

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suzzer, i've seen (and participated) in libertarian protests, and I know they accomplish nothing. you live in some fantasy world where libertarians don't go out protesting - this isn't the case, and you are simply ignorant on the subject - and yes, no one is surprised.

10-16-2011 , 01:48 PM

#7859

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btw, why is the occupy wall street discussion now in this thread?

i don't think i brought it up, I was responding to someone else quoting me from the other thread in this thread.

10-16-2011 , 01:59 PM

#7860

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

Where was the protest and what were you protesting?

10-16-2011 , 02:02 PM

#7861

ikestoys

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I remember tsao protesting as well.

10-16-2011 , 03:07 PM

#7862

General Tsao

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btw, why is the occupy wall street discussion now in this thread?

i don't think i brought it up, I was responding to someone else quoting me from the other thread in this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Where was the protest and what were you protesting?

philly and we were protesting the federal reserve.

10-16-2011 , 03:41 PM

#7863

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

lol @ suggesting John Adams would endorse mob violence, he was a vocal opponent of that. Were you confusing John Adams with Sam Adams? Sam was the one who was the tar n' feather guy, John was the one who defended the British Soldiers in court after the Boston Massacre.

10-16-2011 , 03:47 PM

#7864

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I was quoting a TV show as I said. IDK if that's something J. Adams actually said or not.

And John Adams was one of the chief engineers of the WAR for independence, and was highly critical of the conservative attempts to beg for the return of English liberty.

10-16-2011 , 04:38 PM

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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-border-fence/

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Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.

But he says it was a joke.

10-16-2011 , 04:43 PM

#7866

General Tsao

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hahahahaaaaaaa

cain!!

i feel like every time someone points out something dumb he's said or done or part of his plan, it's either a joke, out of context, or there's a secret solution to the problem that he decides to reveal just at that moment.

10-16-2011 , 05:20 PM

#7867

bgomez89

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

or he was misquoted ldo

10-16-2011 , 05:43 PM

#7868

Max Raker

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

Also jailed people for calling him the same things they you call Bush and Obama.

10-16-2011 , 05:48 PM

#7869

General Tsao

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hey everyone max raker is joining the conversation

hey max raker great to have you here

you may not have been able to tell but JA actually has nothing to do with any topic, i was simply using a phrase from the JA HBO show which summed up my opinion of peaceful protests.

10-16-2011 , 06:14 PM

#7870

ErikTheDread

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Originally Posted by bgomez89

or he was misquoted ldo

Just a wild guess, but I'm thinking that finding a clip of it on youtube might not be that hard.

Quote:

The remarks, which came at two campaign rallies in Tennessee as part of a barnstorming bus tour across the state, drew loud cheers from crowds of several hundred people at each rally.

10-16-2011 , 06:16 PM

#7871

Max Raker

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How extreme of a right wing solution do you have to give not to be cheered at a republican rally?

10-16-2011 , 07:14 PM

#7872

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

How extreme of a right wing solution do you have to give not to be cheered at a republican rally?

I believe perry got booed for educating Mexican children. Killing good, schooling bad.

10-16-2011 , 07:43 PM

#7873

ErikTheDread

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10-16-2011 , 08:01 PM

#7874

The 13th 4postle

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^^ Booooooo

10-16-2011 , 08:07 PM

#7875

Fermion5

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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-border-fence/

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.

But he says it was a joke.

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