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01-08-2017 , 02:07 PM
McConnell says they're going forward with confirmation hearings without full vetting.

"All of these little procedural complaints are related to their frustrations,”

“We need to sort of grow up here and get past that.”
01-08-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
McConnell says they're going forward with confirmation hearings without full vetting.

"All of these little procedural complaints are related to their frustrations,”

“We need to sort of grow up here and get past that.”
What a ****ing cock
01-08-2017 , 03:01 PM
Lol Turtle Man is the WOAT.
01-08-2017 , 03:10 PM
is it so hard to believe that Putin threw in his lot to try to get Trump elected because Putin wants america to be strong and tough and great again?
01-08-2017 , 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Cut
McConnell says they're going forward with confirmation hearings without full vetting.

"All of these little procedural complaints are related to their frustrations,”

“We need to sort of grow up here and get past that.”
GG USA - it was a nice ride.
01-08-2017 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Cut
McConnell says they're going forward with confirmation hearings without full vetting.

"All of these little procedural complaints are related to their frustrations,”

“We need to sort of grow up here and get past that.”
this is the sensible thing to do and the quotes are right on target. Given the way the Dems have been acting with regards to the recounts and the electoral college etc. it is clear they are just out to delay and obstruct.
01-08-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hornbug
this is the sensible thing to do and the quotes are right on target. Given the way the Dems have been acting with regards to the recounts and the electoral college etc. it is clear they are just out to delay and obstruct.
Said without a hint of irony.
01-08-2017 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
Said without a hint of irony.

Seriously we are just going to forget the last 8 years again and play a new game. Americans voted for Trump and a Republican Congress, therefore it's their fault we have to institute authoritarian rules. Can't take any of these people seriously moving forward.
01-08-2017 , 04:04 PM
the GOP was able to resist the urge to use the nuclear option for many years while GWB was president but the Dems couldn't resist when their guy was president. You guys just ignore the history of Dem obstructionism during GWB and their rule manipulations.
01-08-2017 , 04:09 PM
The dems cooperated with GWB waaaay more than they should have. Nice revisionist history.
01-08-2017 , 04:09 PM
Yup, nothing at all alarming about the way things are proceeding. Just business as usual.

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01-08-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
It's just amazing to see the right wing utterly cede patriotism in the name of sticking it to the liberals. There isn't even the pretense of any other agenda. The people who have wrapped themselves so tightly in the American flag for decades are now ****ting all over it as revenge for a handful of cultural grievances where they never had the high ground in the first place.
It's almost like "If it pisses off liberals then I am enthusiastically for it" is an exploitable strategy.
01-08-2017 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
A longer term approach is to invest into renewable energy. If Russia didn't have oil and natural gas the Western world wouldn't give a damn about them and could embargo and sanction them at will. Right now a lot of Europe is still dependent on energy imports from Russia and a splintered Europe plays right into Putin's hands.

As a bonus this also works for many bad actors in the middle East. Less dependence on fossil fuels has great geopolitical benefits.
Where are you from? I'm not sure why but I have the impression you're from Germany. If so, this applies....in 2016 Germany supplied 32% of it's electrical power from renewables outpacing its goal of 35% by 2020. Next goal after that is 50% by 2030. I would give 5 to 1 that they beat that or even money to 50% by 2025. The US of course lags way behind, but California is at 29% now and has the same 50% by 2030 goal.
01-08-2017 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
is it so hard to believe that Putin threw in his lot to try to get Trump elected because Putin wants america to be strong and tough and great again?
It's actually not. There are winner$ in proxy war$, cold war$, and arm$ race$ both in Ru$$ia and in the U$.
01-08-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hornbug
the GOP was able to resist the urge to use the nuclear option for many years while GWB was president but the Dems couldn't resist when their guy was president. You guys just ignore the history of Dem obstructionism during GWB and their rule manipulations.

Hornbug what planet do you live on? The last several years have involved absolutely unprecedented obstructionism, far worse than ever happened under GW. Let's play a different game - what is this new Congress going to do that benefits the American people that the Dems are trying to obstruct?

I think liberals need to acknowledge that they have just been playing a different game than us. We thought that people wanted to have constructive debates about the best direction to benefit the American people. Republicans want power for the sake of power, nothing else matters now that they have it, the ends justify the means. I'd be very surprised if we have anything resembling fair elections going forward, that would not be part of their plan for oligarchic rule.
01-08-2017 , 04:55 PM
But hornbug is fine with it all because Hillary did Benghazi and wrote emails.
01-08-2017 , 04:56 PM
When does Western Europe start ramping up there own military capability again?
01-08-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
If he was more skilled and less ego driven could elevate the real issue, Russia is attempting to weaken the West and we will not let them.
What on earth makes you say this is a deficit in Trump's "skill" and not what he actually wants/believes? He's shown zero interest in "not letting" Russia do exactly that.

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Originally Posted by hornbug
this is the sensible thing to do and the quotes are right on target. Given the way the Dems have been acting with regards to the recounts and the electoral college etc. it is clear they are just out to delay and obstruct.
LOL hornbug ever pretending like he cared about things like "the system" in police shooting threads. "The system", in this case, gives importance to things like "ethics investigations" that hornbug clearly doesn't give a **** about when the politicians he likes are the ones in power.

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Originally Posted by hornbug
the GOP was able to resist the urge to use the nuclear option for many years while GWB was president but the Dems couldn't resist when their guy was president.
That's because Obama faced more obstruction for federal judge nominations than any President in history. The GOP "resisted the urge" because they didn't need it, how ignorant of history are you dude?
01-08-2017 , 05:07 PM
it's not like russia independently decided to help trump. trump either solicited their help or simply actively campaigned on it.

below is a link to video and audio recording of trump soliciting the help of russian hackers during the campaign that will be handwaved by half of half of eligible US voters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us...on-emails.html

he didn't say, "russian speaking hackers" or "hackers born in russia who are independent black hats right now", he called for "russia" to hack hillary's emails

i'm not saying this is how it started, i'm saying trump, on that day, was SO AWARE that russia was hacking hillary and helping him that he decided to make jokes about it at a press conference

Last edited by ScreaminAsian; 01-08-2017 at 05:17 PM.
01-08-2017 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Where are you from? I'm not sure why but I have the impression you're from Germany. If so, this applies....in 2016 Germany supplied 32% of it's electrical power from renewables outpacing its goal of 35% by 2020. Next goal after that is 50% by 2030. I would give 5 to 1 that they beat that or even money to 50% by 2025. The US of course lags way behind, but California is at 29% now and has the same 50% by 2030 goal.
German US comparions re: renewable energy are fatally flawed.

Germany has the luxury of exporting it's variable renewable energy supply. The US has no such option.
01-08-2017 , 05:25 PM
States can't sell power to other states?
01-08-2017 , 05:29 PM
Trump Fact:

the reason he never uses email is because his FSB handler warned him about this plan 10 years ago
01-08-2017 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Where are you from? I'm not sure why but I have the impression you're from Germany. If so, this applies....in 2016 Germany supplied 32% of it's electrical power from renewables outpacing its goal of 35% by 2020. Next goal after that is 50% by 2030. I would give 5 to 1 that they beat that or even money to 50% by 2025. The US of course lags way behind, but California is at 29% now and has the same 50% by 2030 goal.
Other incorrect facts here:

The number is 45% by 2025.

And they aren't likely to exceed that number considering Germany has switched from a statutory feed in tariff model (that is far and away the impetus in growth in German renewable for the last 16 years) to an auction style; where installers of new renewable will have to bid on projects and the contracts are awarded to on a lowest $/kwh basis as opposed to a statutory fixed rate.

Last edited by thenewsavman; 01-08-2017 at 05:34 PM.
01-08-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
States can't sell power to other states?
Sure they can.

But microbet is a making a national level comparison.

Germany is a country of 80 million surrounded by 640 million people.

You can see the problem for the US if it produced a ridiculous excess of renewable energy, as Germany does.
01-08-2017 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Where are you from? I'm not sure why but I have the impression you're from Germany.
You are correct.

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Originally Posted by microbet
If so, this applies....in 2016 Germany supplied 32% of it's electrical power from renewables outpacing its goal of 35% by 2020. Next goal after that is 50% by 2030. I would give 5 to 1 that they beat that or even money to 50% by 2025. The US of course lags way behind, but California is at 29% now and has the same 50% by 2030 goal.
Germany generally is on the right track but it imports more than 60% of its energy supply. For oil it's 97% with 35% coming from Russia. For gas it's 90%. 40% of that coming from Russia.
At the same time we close down our still working nuclear reactors despite having to pay billions of Euros in fines. The German parliament in 2010 had decided to extend the operation of 8 of our nuclear reactors. Then one day after the begin of the Fukushima catastrophe Merkel decided to repeal the extension because Germany getting hit by a magnitude 9 earthquake and a tsunami at the same time could totally happen.

I didn't bother to find current numbers for the rest of Europe but in 2007 the EU imported 33% of its oil and 39% of its gas from Russia, almost 300 million tons. Some countries got 100% of their gas from Russia.

In my opinion it's absolutely necessary to have a strong EU to counterbalance Russia. Otherwise Russia will take a divide and conquer approach.

      
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