Why quietly? Is he ashamed of himself?

Say Stan ends up so alienated that his behaviour becomes indistinguishable from Clement's, can we then call Stan a racist? Or because he ended up at Clement's level of racism innocently should Stan be treated with kid gloves?

I did not duck. I thought the question was misdirected and pointless, since the video you posted says what words he does not like and my OP implied them.

Wait wat?

That was just a comical addendum, about the whole mess of black friends Stan has and my perplexity, to my longer Srs Biz post preceding it, #967.

If during one of their Sunday football get-togethers the subject of Trump gets brought up, does Stan (quietly) tell Fred who he voted for?

Only if you try really hard. Otherwise it's very straightforward.

Wait who's Fred? This increasing cast of characters is getting downright Dostoyevskyesque.

Fred is Stan's best black friend.

Ya 5ive you slowpoke, I'll break it down for you:

Ok, so there's a large group getting hated on. The political persuasion of this hated group, or why they're being hated on hasn't yet been specified.

A bit more info, the hated's community is a separate community from the haters' community.

Now a wrench is thrown in because I thought they were already on the other side of the haters.

Sooo ya, hope that clears things up for ya 5ive.

Lestat,

To simplify my conjecture,

I'm saying that with at least 1 BBFF Stan is not at all our typical case. Black folk are 13ish% of the population and 98% live in Hotlanta [citation needed] so there's a whole murder of rural white males who would be lucky to even have 1 friendly black acquaintance. Stan turning to the dark side of the trump would make him even more of an outlier.


I remain skeptical Stan gets from A to Z.

Take the BLM thing, we might have this conversation:


Stan: Black lives matter... What does that even mean?!?

Black Steve: It means me, and Black Fred, and Black Bob and Black Joe too. And our family and friends. You know, the people you know and love.

Stan: Oh duh, right, had a moment of dumb there. Yeah, you guys Matter A Lot.

Oh **** I got it twisted, I thought there was more than 1 BBFF, but it's Fred and bowling buddies. I didn't reread the origin story today.

Dammit. This does open the door for tokenism.

Nah, F it, I stand by what I've said. Stan and Fred are clearly BFFs and bowling buddies have weight so I'd say it all still applies.

hold that thought

Did I mention denial?

Good to see the efforts at making the simple hard. Fred is telling George about it.

Sorry, ex - we may be on a break.

I took him seriously in unchained until he said the best statistics come from Reddit. That told me all I needed to know.

You need to,propose to her.

Again, if someone as ignorant and racist as Lestat with personal exposure to the mean kids at 2p2 politics didn't vote for Trump out of spite I have no idea why we're humoring him about Stan, who in this hypothetical appears to be significantly more liberal than Lestat on the merits setting aside any backlash effect.

Maybe a bigger problem is quislings and insincere concern trolls like chezlaw and also the New York Times(http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/26/op...=tw-share&_r=0) denying racism's existence and impact?

Because you know, that actually happened in actual newspapers and on actual mainstream news channels.

Like chezlaw is ****ing GIDDY about this obvious bull**** argument, so giddy he's lost his always tenuous ability to form a coherent sentence. He really really wants an end to the hatred and divisiveness... of liberals using the r-word on the internet.

You can go over to unchained and find ToothSayer posting and reposting alt-right anti-Islam talking points, and oddly enough you won't find chezlaw saying one goddamn word about that hatred and divisiveness.

And, of course, my favorite chezlaw story that still just sums him up as a person so perfectly, when some halfwitted Nazi posted a bunch of far-right anti-immigrant propaganda youtube chezlaw was so against hatred and division that he... coached that Nazi on how to best avoid getting called racist by the mean kids,

and all for naught because ,

ibetappingdatglASS
banned

He got banned anyway. Because he was a ****ing racist. Also his user name was ibetappingdatglASS, but the siren song of being racist was so powerful that chezlaw couldn't help but suck up to him because CHEZLAW IS RACIST.

No. (Suzzer, if you end up doing that, I take this back and wish you all the happiness in the world.)

I think I posted something about this a couple of years ago but there's this group called Intelligence Squared that hosts Oxford-style debates on various topics. They will posit a motion, people vote for or against, then there's a debate where both sides are argued, and afterward people vote again (the winner is whichever side moves the needle the most their way, essentially). The topic this week was related to gerrymandering which is why I'm quoting your post. Give a listen if it's a topic that interests you.

The motion: Gerrymandering is destroying the political center

http://www.intelligencesquaredus.org...al-center#vote

spoiler: the "no" guys offer some pretty powerful arguments in their favor imo

Yeah well that will never happen, so good luck with your new orange version of Idi Amin.

Not that a trump victory has emboldened these types of people or anything, but there's a (highly armed) neo-nazi rally planned for Montana

http://www.ibtimes.com/neo-nazi-marc...makers-2466384

Chez pops up randomly calling me abnormal, usually whenever I call some idiot over in PU an idiot, on the back of that discussion. I don't think he's figured out I'd be more concerned if he didn't consider me abnormal given what constitutes normal to him.

Yeah the context surrounding that post quoting was chezlaw FLIPPING OUT that dereds called ibetappingdatglASS racist, the crosstalk was ibetappingdatglASS arguing with dereds about how the refugees secretly all had money and were immigrating for mysterious other reasons(like the destruction of Western civilization) while chezlaw hectored dereds for using the r-word.

Guess, GUESS, if chezlaw said one ****ing cross word to his dearly departed buddy from the Bronx, ibetappingdatglASS?

Guess if chezlaw, even today, would be willing to call that permabanned poster a racist?

Hey hey hey let's not make up stuff to be mean, this post is hateful and divisive.


Hey, chezlaw, you might remember the Daily Stormer from being where duffee was linking his IQ charts from! LOL FoldN claimed duffee didn't have one racist bone in his body, man, SMP was such a vibrant intellectual community of free thinkers and contrarians.