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Are we really so desperate for someone to engage with that you're going to give this guy the time of day? You're not getting anything insightful here, take it to unchained.

11-20-2016 , 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcardz

Trump will not do anything to impede on our constitutional rights. And he will give the power back to the people and the states.

He's hired people who do not think that people's right to vote should be stringently enforced, that the NSA should go back to keeping a dossier on every person regardless of if they're under investigation, his VP fought against gay rights and wanted conversion therapy, where homosexuals are electrocuted to get the gay away. The Republicans are starting to look at bills that make it tougher to assemble and to protest.

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I would not be so concerned. What's wrong with lower taxes? You want to pay more?

If Trump gets rid of the head of household tax exemption for single families like his tax plan says, all single parents will pay much more in taxes. If Paul Ryan gets his plan through Medicare and Medicaid will be removed forcing millions into poverty,

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These globalists are already paying literally nothing in taxes. Trump isn't going to help them pay less. It's completely the opposite. He's going to make it fair. That's why every billionaire is furious with him.

Even a cursory look at his tax plan shows this isn't so. He's going to reduce the top marginal tax rate by relatively more than he will lower the lower tax brackets and the corporate tax rate. His infrastructure plan doesn't actually build anything instead he gives tax breaks to crony construction companies at the expense of me and you. He's giving money away to billionaire and millionaires hand over fist while people like me and you get nothing. Worse if Paul Ryan gets his way millions be paying a lot more for retirement and healthcare.

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11-20-2016 , 01:12 PM

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Given wikileaks acted as a state propaganda arm of Russia during this campaign, has numerous links to questionable regimes including Russia, has been proven to selectively leak material with a clear anti west and especially anti American agenda and their rapist leader openly admitted being against Hillary and for Trump we can't just casually skip by that they are an unbiased organisation.

Their bias definitely isn't a nitpick.

This is the problem with giving any ****ing ground. You can't legitimise such arguments by ignoring a point like that. Wikileaks is a terrible pick, they are barely better than RT or ****ebart as a choice he could have made and have biases a flaws at least as bad as CNN.

Dude, I know that. But that argument goes nowhere and gains nothing. He thinks NYT is laughably compromised by the billionaire globalist agenda to the point where you should automatically reject anything they say as lies. With his worldview, you cannot win the argument that actually it's wikileaks that has the agenda. Look at Huehue's last post and ask if yourself if that's not a million times more effective than arguing about wikileaks bias.

11-20-2016 , 01:17 PM

#379

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Originally Posted by Wildcardz

Soros, Cuban, bezos, Clintons, Branson, Slim. ANYONE you've seen that is vehemently speaking out against trump is scared he is going to ruin something for them. Whether it be their satanic child pedo ring ("pizza parties") or their ruthless biz practices that Amazon has.

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Trump spoke out about stomping out ruthless business practices.

Lol at labeling Cuban a globalist.

It's annoying the head of the Trump base is brained by 4chan/Reddit.

11-20-2016 , 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

True unfortunately Wikileaks only releases documents. If they have no documentation then they don't report on it which means their scope is rather limited. What's Wikileaks' analysis of healthcare? of the drop in artic ice? in the increase of measles outbreaks? They can't analyze it so they're pretty much useless outside of a small slice of reporting.

This is a pretty infantile take. Uh....you are supposed to be the one doing the analyzing bro

11-20-2016 , 04:48 PM

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This is a pretty infantile take. Uh....you are supposed to be the one doing the analyzing bro

Well I was talking to someone who wouldn't accept MSNBC or Wapo as legitimate sources so I had to come down a few levels.

11-20-2016 , 04:52 PM

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During the game at Fujitani Field, a group of Wilton students were heard chanting “build the wall” — a phrase commonly heard at Donald Trump’s presidential campaign rallies, referring to the wall he’s said he would build at the United States-Mexico border to keep out immigrants.

While minority enrollment at Wilton High School is around 12%, minorities make up more than half of Danbury High School’s student body — a majority of whom are Hispanic.

http://www.wiltonbulletin.com/90129/...football-game/

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The median income for a household in the town was $197,428, and the median income for a family was $217,415. Males had a median income of $190,000 versus $71,611 for females.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilton,_Connecticut

11-20-2016 , 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Well I was talking to someone who wouldn't accept MSNBC or Wapo as legitimate sources so I had to come down a few levels.

ok, fair

11-20-2016 , 05:07 PM

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Lol at even bothering to argue with someone we know gets their "news" exclusively from Facebook memes and websites with sections devoted to black crime.

11-20-2016 , 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vaya

Lol at even bothering to argue with someone we know gets their "news" exclusively from Facebook memes and websites with sections devoted to black crime.

Those morons are influencing people that vote in swing states. But here's the good news: Not only are they morons, but they're also cowards, hence the weapons stockpiled under their houses, and we can easily get them to swallow their own tongues if we *gasp* talk to them.

11-20-2016 , 07:16 PM

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Wookie, how did you let this guy get into spirit cooking before the banhammer dropped? C'mon son.

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Originally Posted by pvn

uh, Jeff Bezos owns wapo.

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Originally Posted by Wildcardz

Then Carlos owns the new York times.

The New York Times is publicly traded

11-20-2016 , 07:20 PM

#387

MrWookie

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He told us to Google it. Weak.

11-20-2016 , 07:23 PM

#388

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Complaining about Carlos Slim is one of those 100% never fail indicators that someone is all the way down the rabbit hole.

11-20-2016 , 10:17 PM

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Some white guy always shows up to remind us that white guys can be victims too.

That's very unfair in this context. He's talking about actual white people THERE, getting the hoses and dogs put on them, getting humiliated and violated at the lunch counters.

p.s. Like the total opposite of this " why won't somebody think of the white man for once" going around.

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11-20-2016 , 10:45 PM

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11-20-2016 , 11:09 PM

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(Warning long quote, but the whole quote is good)

Back up even further than just the Civil Rights Act. Totally understandable and commendable that we should look up to more black people as the heros that they were. To the extent that people should have heros who look like them, then these are the heros white Southerners should have. Not some dumb ass Robert E Lee statue.

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A bald fact: more than three thousand freedmen and their white Republican allies were murdered in the campaign of terrorist violence that overthrew the only representatively elected governments the Southern states would know for a hundred years to come. Among the dead were more than sixty state senators, judges, legislators, sheriffs, constables, mayors, county commissioners, and other officeholders whose only crime was to have been elected. They were lynched by bands of disguised men who dragged them from cabins by night, or fired on from ambushes on lonely roadsides, or lured into a barroom by a false friend and on a prearranged signal shot so many times that the corpse was nothing but shreds, or pulled off a train in broad daylight by a body of heavily-armed men resembling nothing so much as a Confederate cavalry company and forced to kneel in the stubble of an October field and shot in the head over and over again, at point blank.

So saturated is our collective memory with Gone With the Wind stock characters of thieving carpetbaggers, ignorant Negroes, and low scalawags, that it comes as a shock not so much to discover that there were men and women of courage, idealism, rectitude, and vision who risked everything to try to build a new society of equality and justice on the ruins of the Civil War, who fought to give lasting meaning to the sacrifices of that terrible struggle, who gave their fortunes, careers, happiness, and lives to make real the simple and long-delayed American promise that all men were created equal—it comes as a shock not so much to be confronted by their idealism and courage and uprightness as by the realization that they were convinced, up to the very last, that they would succeed. Confident in the rightness of their cause, backed by the military might of the United States government, secure in the ringing declarations, now the supreme law of the land embodied in the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments of the Constitution, that slavery was not only dead but that equality and the right to vote were the patrimony now of all Americans, they could not imagine that their nation could win such a terrible war and lose the ensuing peace.

Lose, the nation undeniably did.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/01/30...ody-shirt.html

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11-20-2016 , 11:49 PM

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"Progressive" or "liberal" used as a pejorative is the new "n----r lover". Please don't forget this.

I say provocative things like this so others don't have to.

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Originally Posted by mongidig

The left is all about everyone getting along and tolerating each other. The left is the first group to cry racism, which causes more racism. The leftist are the real nazis. You should let people believe whatever they want. This is why you are becoming obsolete. If someone prefers to be with his own kind who cares as long as they arent hurting anybody. Quit trying to force this "can't we all get along" mantra while at the same time shouting down people who don't believe as you do.

Racism is getting worse for sure. Don't blame Trump. Blame yourselves and BLM.

BTW...look up, Trump is President.

11-20-2016 , 11:53 PM

#393

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Maybe drop the chip on your shoulder.

11-20-2016 , 11:59 PM

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Maybe drop the chip on your shoulder.

Please proceed guv'ner.

Should we go to Unchained?

11-21-2016 , 01:31 AM

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...tization-scam/

11-21-2016 , 01:32 AM

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Wow now that noble prize winning liberal Paul Krugman has come out against the infrastructure scam we can be assured that that alone proves to all the Trumpkins that it is a great idea. Is it a big rip off? Who knows but we do know that it pisses off liberals. Sold.

11-21-2016 , 01:38 AM

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Racism is getting worse for sure. Don't blame Trump. Blame yourselves and BLM.

11-21-2016 , 01:42 AM

#398

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A lot of people in politics and the media are scrambling to normalize what just happened to us, saying that it will all be OK and we can work with Trump. No, it won’t, and no, we can’t. The next occupant of the White House will be a pathological liar with a loose grip on reality; he is already surrounding himself with racists, anti-Semites, and conspiracy theorists; his administration will be the most corrupt in America history.

How did this happen? There were multiple causes, but you just can’t ignore the reality that key institutions and their leaders utterly failed. Every news organization that decided, for the sake of ratings, to ignore policy and barely cover Trump scandals while obsessing over Clinton emails, every reporter who, for whatever reason — often sheer pettiness — played up Wikileaks nonsense and talked about how various Clinton stuff “raised questions” and “cast shadows” is complicit in this disaster. And then there’s the FBI: it’s quite reasonable to argue that James Comey, whether it was careerism, cowardice, or something worse, tipped the scales and may have doomed the world.

No, I’m not giving up hope. Maybe, just maybe, the sheer awfulness of what’s happening will sink in. Maybe the backlash will be big enough to constrain Trump from destroying democracy in the next few months, and/or sweep his gang from power in the next few years. But if that’s going to happen, enough people will have to be true patriots, which means taking a stand.

And anyone who doesn’t — who plays along and plays it safe — is betraying America, and mankind.

Krugman

11-21-2016 , 01:52 AM

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First, why involve private investors at all? It’s not as if the federal government is having any trouble raising money — in fact, a large part of the justification for infrastructure investment is precisely that the government can borrow so cheaply. Why do we need private equity at all?

Private investors in theory focus their talents in the right areas since they have skin in the game (aka in economics as The Calculation Debate). This prevents imfamous bridges to nowhere.

11-21-2016 , 02:28 AM

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From this:

Private investors in theory focus their talents in the right areas since they have skin in the game (aka in economics as The Calculation Debate). This prevents imfamous bridges to nowhere.

Ending earmarking stopped the Bridges to Nowhere

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