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07-14-2016 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
It's good to see they are focusing on Benghazi for an entire night. Now that episode can finally get the attention it deserves.
This post is absolutely perfect, either meant sincerely or as a completely sarcastic post of somebody who has actually been paying attention. They've only done years of investigations, Congressional hearings, and Bush-appointed Comey at the FBI tried as hard as he could to find a reason to indict her. BUT WE'RE FINALLY GONNA GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS BENGHAZI THING AT THE CONVENTION!
07-14-2016 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
This post is absolutely perfect, either meant sincerely or as a completely sarcastic post of somebody who has actually been paying attention. They've only done years of investigations, Congressional hearings, and Bush-appointed Comey at the FBI tried as hard as he could to find a reason to indict her. BUT WE'RE FINALLY GONNA GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS BENGHAZI THING AT THE CONVENTION!
Fingers crossed we get clint eastwood interviewing hillary (as played by an empty chair) on the matter.
07-14-2016 , 11:37 PM
Incredibly, they seem to have put Tebow on the speaker's list without asking Tebow, who has since said he isn't going to Cleveland to speak.
07-14-2016 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Incredibly, they seem to have put Tebow on the speaker's list without asking Tebow, who has since said he isn't going to Cleveland to speak.
You are surprised by this?
07-14-2016 , 11:43 PM
Meh, that list was a leak and not official anyway.
07-15-2016 , 12:00 AM
Apparently, Trump wanted a lineup of "champions and winners" instead of traditional politicians, which is why the list has Natalie Gulbis, winner of 1 LPGA event and loser of the Celebrity Apprentice 2, who some people may remember most for appearing in body paint in the 2012 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.
07-15-2016 , 01:07 AM


#trump2016 #alt-right #race-realist
07-15-2016 , 02:51 PM
Obama vetoed the awful rule GOP managed to push through the house allowing financial advisors to not have to act in the best interests of their clients. GOP says it's a "job killer." Absolutely mind-blowing.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/...e-rich-quotes/
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President Barack Obama issued his administration’s 10th veto earlier this week, overruling a GOP-backed attempt to undo his controversial fiduciary rule, which requires that financial advisers only act in the best interests of their clients.

The House of Representatives voted to strike down the rule in April, with lawmakers voting largely along party lines in a 234-183 split. Obama’s veto overturns the House’s decision, which means that the bill must secure a 2/3rds majority in Congress in order to pass. Since the Republican Party does not have a 2/3rds majority in Congress, it is unlikely to pass when it gets sent back.

The President wrote the following in his veto:

“This rule is critical to protecting Americans’ hard-earned savings and preserving their retirement security.

The outdated regulations in place before this rulemaking did not ensure that financial advisers act in their clients’ best interests when giving retirement investment advice. Instead, some firms have incentivized advisers to steer clients into products that have higher fees and lower returns — costing America’s families an estimated $17 billion a year.”

The Fiduciary Rule will require all financial advisors in the United States to follow what the field already calls the “fiduciary standard,” meaning that advisors must put the interests of their clients above their own profits when advising them. Before the rule, financial professionals who were not registered with the Securities and Exchanges Commission were allowed to give their clients whatever they thought was suitable for them, even if it wasn’t the very best advice. Clients could therefore be recommended to buy higher priced investments that wouldn’t necessarily give them the greatest returns. The Fiduciary Rule will now legally bind all financial professionals to the fiduciary standard in regards to retirement advice.
07-15-2016 , 03:55 PM
By my count that's the 8,973rd "job killer" Obama has unleashed on our economy.
07-15-2016 , 03:58 PM
07-15-2016 , 03:59 PM
you'd think the unemployment rate would be higher with all these job-killing job killers

well, unless you're trump and think the unemployment rate is really anywhere from 26% to 40%+
07-15-2016 , 04:02 PM
Is that an old chart? I thought UE was under 5%
07-15-2016 , 04:09 PM
i'd guess so since it only goes to 2014
07-15-2016 , 04:10 PM
Yeah it's not totally current but a quick google search shows 5.5% as of right now.

Edit: 4.9 as of June 2016.
07-15-2016 , 04:10 PM
LowKey on a roll today.
07-15-2016 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Yeah it's not totally current but a quick google search shows 5.5% as of right now.
I derisively sneer and roll my eyes at your 5.5%. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO STOPPED LOOKING?!??!? Also numbers might be cooked. Other reasons.

But we know it can't be true by definition, because Obama is killing the economy.
07-15-2016 , 04:12 PM
Trump would totally have signed that bill into law without a brief hesitation.
07-15-2016 , 04:15 PM
Why do you hate banks? All regulations are bad. Stop being envious and start your own business.
07-15-2016 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I derisively sneer and roll my eyes at your 5.5%. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO STOPPED LOOKING?!??!? Also numbers might be cooked. Other reasons.

But we know it can't be true by definition, because Obama is killing the economy.
The truth is there are some systemic problems in the economy. But Obama isn't responsible for them and hasn't made them worse. Wages are actually getting a little bump of 2% or more this year, which is good compared to recent past years. Not great for sure though. And a lot of jobs are shifting away from manufacturing sector to service and tech sector and some people are totally getting left behind with no easy way to retrain and get back and be competitive in the job market.

But yeah, welcome to the Obamaconomy. Soon to be the Clintodigm for at least four years.
07-15-2016 , 05:26 PM
If Johnny Deep's Charlie and the chocolate factory taught me nothing else, it's that if your job is manual labor (screwing lids on toothpaste), you can quickly be retrained to do work in the tech sector (robot repair)
07-17-2016 , 03:27 PM
Kind of an amazing sentence from Jeb!:

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In turn, a few in the Republican Party responded by trying to out-polarize the president, making us seem anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker and anti-common-sense.
Jeb Bush: Trump does not represent the future of the country — or the GOP

Hey guys, Jeb! --who wanted to bar Muslim war refugees, who thought the Scarlet Letter should be a model for how we shame sluts, who doesn't think humans contribute to climate change, who opposed gay marriage and adoption-- is really upset that Trump is making the party look like a bunch of dumb bigots.
07-17-2016 , 03:38 PM
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...this year has taught us the risks of letting personalities run roughshod over substance and principle. Let’s reintroduce civility, ideas and optimism back into politics. Let’s find ways to campaign and govern inclusively. Let’s find ways to ease the angst and fear of people, without cynically feeding it.
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As much as I reject Donald Trump as our party leader, he did not create the political culture of the United States on his own.

Eight years of the divisive tactics of President Obama and his allies have undermined Americans’ faith in politics...
ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME YOU DAIRY-AISLE CLOWNSHOES ASSHAT
07-17-2016 , 04:41 PM
Shocking, Jeb! is a pathetic piece of **** liar.
07-17-2016 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Obama vetoed the awful rule GOP managed to push through the house allowing financial advisors to not have to act in the best interests of their clients. GOP says it's a "job killer." Absolutely mind-blowing.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/...e-rich-quotes/
This used to be the standard. In 1940 there was the Investment Advisors Act which started the regulation of advisors (SCOTUS decision determined it established a fiduciary duty). Deregulation during the Clinton and Bush administrations weakened the rules, and then Dodd Frank specifically called for a standard no less stringent than the 1940 act.

http://www.investmentnews.com/articl...nancial-advice
07-18-2016 , 09:56 AM
Was going to make a post in the convention thread and figured it was more appropriate here. I actually think that Trump is showing the Republicans how to keep their party relevant at the national level. The conventional wisdom, relayed in the op, is that demographic changes will undermine the efficiency of the Republican's racist rhetoric. Thus, the calls for "compassionate conservative" etc. I disagree.

Eliminating race-baiting, xenophobia and immigrant-bashing rhetoric would be the worst marketing decision of all time. Even New Coke was still a sweet cola beverage that people liked; what does a non-racist Republican Party have to offer to 99% of the population? Demographic changes may hinder your future prospects, but there is a clear and inevitable solution for them. Just broaden the definition of white people. Elevate the status of East Asians and light-skinned Hispanics to "real Americans" and triple down on the racist policy for blacks, Muslims, South Asians, anybody darker then, say, Colin Powell. Promote "literacy" tests for voting and access to government programs and services. Eliminate immigration from the global south, and replace with tightly regulated guest worker programs like those seen in the UAE. And Build More Prisons.

This is ultimately where they are headed, I have thought so for a while but instead Trump just makes it clear. Instead of dragging the process out for 20 years the Trump convention should be a golden opportunity to make this strategy explicit. It might make for some icky TV, but they can trot out the name of Lincoln, so it's pretty much a wash imo.

      
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