The dude who is blind to what a slaugherhouse is seems more psycopathic than the guy who guts an occasional deer.

Yes, this. Most hunt instead of, like, playing golf or whatever other hobby, not because they care about the environment.

She has infinitely higher chance of getting bitten by a tse tse fly or something and dying from some weird disease.

As long as it's legal and beneficial. What is the issue if they only hunt for fun? Does that make it wrong? Immoral?

People in Alaska absolutely hunt for food. One moose can stock their freezer through the winter. It's an indelible part of the culture there and still done mostly for subsistence. I'm sure it's the same in other rural/poor parts of the US.

That's a bingo; practicing animal cruelty for fun is wrong.

I doubt this particular hunt is beneficial for anyone except those getting the big paycheck.

There is an important distinction to be understood between what the hunters think and feel compared to the result of their actions.

As for as your second point, there are a lot of people who resort to hunting as making a Costco run. Your buying in bulk, saving money, and bagging your own groceries.

I am not sure what percentage of people hunt for their own food in this day in age. It would be interesting to know. But I think if you include the traditional history of it and the excitement of it, I would imagine that number would be somewhat small. IMO hunting for pleasure alone is sickening to think about or even watch in TV.

Taking pride in killing exotic and endangered animals is like vandalizing a museum. Could you imagine someone slashing up the original Mona Lisa? Taking a crowbar to Michelangelo's David? Putting graffiti on the Sistine chapel? Then proudly standing in a selfie smiling at your accomplishment?

Thats all these "hunters" are doing. The sad part is there is not enough public shaming to convince them otherwise, as they will surround themselves with their affluent friends and family who will offer their support because "**** everybody who isnt rich like us".

Such a well thought out intelligent post.

Not true at all, every so often there are articles in the Washington post about what goes on in slaughterhouses. The methods meant to stun an animal before killing routinely fail, leading to burning or scorching alive. It fails around 1% of the time, meaning an absolute ton of animals get burned alive.

about 2. The entire focus of this thread is misguided, how an animal is killed should be a big part of it. I would much rather be a lion shot be some psycho on an ego trip than a chicken burned alive that was destined to feed a family. Both are cruel and unnecessary, it is just easier to see in the case of the lion being killed. The family needs to eat but they don't need to eat a chicken.

Agreed, we need more people like Yao Ming.

http://www.wildaid.org/news/yao-ming...and-rhino-horn

This seems strange. "I'm fine with what you're doing but I don't want you enjoying it!".

Hunting is fun. The enjoyment of it is probably hard-wired in our brains. Society chooses what animals need killing (pigs, deer, pythons, nutria, etc) and unleashes a free workforce to deal with the problem.

Really? I regularly kill mice in my home but I don't enjoy it. If someone told me they really enjoyed killing killing animals I would find them morally questionable.

My vet had to put a cat of mine down. As above, I understand why a sick animal has to be put down. I'm fine with what they're doing. If I found out the vet enjoyed putting animals to sleep I would think that person was sick as well.

My uncle loves hunting and while I don't hunt I don't think he's a bad person for it. I kinda like it since I get a bunch of free goodies out of it when I visit.

Reading this thread my primary question is: is there any reason I shouldn't have falcon on ignore? I can deal with the dumbness of some posters (ie ikes and 33bb) but trolling is dumb.

You may surprised at how many people actually do look at hunting as a source of food. At one time I lived in rural New Mexico and thus knew a fair number of poor folks. If they could bag some game during a hunting season it was a pretty substantial financial windfall actually. I'm not a hunter btw.

what the I don't even

Ignore me if you must, but you cannot stop me from being such a majestic beast.

Yea people are thinking of it as hunting is good only if not for the fact that you didn't hunt you'd starve which is clearly not the case excerpt for some super small percentage but for a lot of rural people having a freezer full of deer meat is a pretty good gift of cheap(ish) good meat.

Chicken is awesome and you vegetarians will never convince us normals otherwise.

I'm getting my own chickens soon. After I tire of fresh eggs everyday I will hunt them and post a TR, complete with a pic of me posing with the carcass.

I was watching the outdoor channel and of course they were deer hunting in I think Montana. As boring and as uninteresting as it appeared to me, topped off with the fact that you are ending the life of an animal as a result, they hunters' looked as if they were having the time of their life.

I have always enjoyed fishing and have a couple times done the 5am wake ups to go fishing out on the lake. Never thought too much about the death of the largemouth bass that I'd be fortunate enough to catch. Maybe it was hard-wired into my brain as a child. Deer hunting never was.

So is recreational fishing viewed as some to be the same as deer hunting? Where is the line drawn?

I dont think hunters enjoy killing animals (besides a few closeted serial killer nutjobs perhaps), they just enjoy playing soldier. It's childish.