huge +1

How was the view of Russia?

I did with a motorbike.

A coworker's brother did this and lost an arm.

I was lucky and got away with a bruised leg.

I have no problems with rich folks going there to tranquilize some animal needing surgery or whatever and pose with it. But pretty F'd up to kill a lion imo

Nothing else to talk about in this thread, may as well rant about camp coloring and Alaskan highway driving patterns.

That is the kind of big game hunting story I can get behind.

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Killing animals for fun is some psychotic ****. That being said the way a lot of animals live and die for the meat industry is much worse than this. Much better for an animal to live outside somewhere and get a bullet to the brain than to live crammed into a pen and killed in an extremely painful way.

On my own personal ethics scale: I need to kill lions for fun because something something helping communities is better than I need to eat tasty steak and fried chicken to survive. They are both selfish and immoral though.

Can we get her in the next hunger games?

I would genuinely laugh my bollocks off if I ever read an article where she ended up being the lion's next meal.

Err in most western countries animals are slaughtered in an extremely humane and as painless as possible way. Except halal, where it's more complicated.

The problem is:
1, no one can be so accurate as to get an instant kill shot every time
2, no one would be in favour of a bolt gun kill on a penned in lion, it's not really about the way they are being killed as such

So basically this is a completely manufacturered "controversy" by someone who wants to be famous. Complete with six day old twitter feed!

"Kendall is a huntress, conservationist, and sportsman looking to host a TV show in 2015."

Only cuz I was trying to argue safety with people who think its a good idea to run around in the woods together and shoot things.

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I know we're supposed to respect hunting, but there is something deeply disturbed about deriving joy and fulfillment from shooting animals.

We're part predator by nature. Not sure how upset I can get by people fulfilling primal urges in a way that provides food and maintains a balance of species.

I'd suggest that we've been farming and keeping animals for so long that this isn't quite true. I certainly don't feel any primal urges to go out and shoot a lion.

There's nothing natural about going on a canned hunt with a high-power rifle.

I'm sure contemporary civilization suppresses those urges a lot for many people, primarily because we don't get very hungry very often. There are plenty of videos of lions being playful with their prey when they've eaten recently. But there's no way we've evolved away from having predator tendencies in just a few thousand years of animal domestication.

Like most things, context matters. If you shoot a moose in season with a license and consume the meat, that seems fine to me. If you kill a rare animal so you can hang its head in your den, I think you're an *******. Viewing hunting in black and white terms where all forms are equal and all motivations the same is just lazy.

From my perspective it's a matter of reverence. If a person kills an animal for an ego trip, what are they revering?

Exactly this. Sustainable hunting and fishing practices, esp. when done for either food or necessary population control of a species short on natural predators (e.g. feral pigs), is normal, ethical behavior.

I don't think anyone would argue with that, but how many hunters are, like, grudgingly rousting themselves out of bed in the predawn twilight, saying to themselves "Boy, shooting those deer sure does make me feel terrible but it's my duty as a steward of the environment to help control the population!"

Nobody in modern America hunts "for food" or "for necessary population control." They might eat the meat, sure, but they hunt because they find shooting animals to be a fun activity, not because their families would starve otherwise.

Well the context here is that someone has flown half way around the world to kill some maginificent creatures for no other reason than to get their kicks.