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And so it begins (Iran - US precursors to war) And so it begins (Iran - US precursors to war)

02-24-2012 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by freedom.fries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzdZWdF7e14&noredirect=1

michael savage fired up. many paid Iranian agents ITT. lol
How does he have 10 million listeners?
02-25-2012 , 12:32 AM
The right wing spin machine is in high gear lately.
02-25-2012 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ohaithar
Tucker Carlson? You mean the same clown from previous "debate" show Crossfire who got verbally massacred by Jon Stewart?
Carlson used to be known for two things: Being a professional douche bag, and wearing a bow tie.

At least he has stopped wearing the tie.
02-25-2012 , 02:05 AM
OH SNAP! South FL reservist ready to invade Iran. You guyz were right all along.
02-25-2012 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
OH SNAP! South FL reservist ready to invade Iran. You guyz were right all along.
Well, technically, they're (probably) preparing to lower recruiting standards to fill the ranks before an armed conflict, but yeah... basically.
02-25-2012 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
OH SNAP! South FL reservist ready to invade Iran. You guyz were right all along.
Glad to see we are planning in to send in the A team.
02-25-2012 , 02:53 AM
SEALs are too busy making movies imo.
02-25-2012 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by longmissedblind
Well, technically, they're (probably) preparing to lower recruiting standards to fill the ranks before an armed conflict, but yeah... basically.
Actually in the real world they're cutting back on recruitment and reducing the size of the military. Pre-invasion PSY-OPs, tho.
02-25-2012 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
Pre-invasion PSY-OPs, tho.
this 100%
02-25-2012 , 03:05 AM
Good thing you guys are wise to the whole thing and can put a stop to these lizardmen.
02-25-2012 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fedorfan
How does he have 10 million listeners?
He found a nitch in his industry and gives them what they want to hear.
02-27-2012 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
This deserves to be bumped.
I also forgot to mention daily Israeli and US threats of bombing and invasion!

The U.S. is a signer of the non-proliferation treaty and violates the U.N. charter by threatening force.

Considering the reasons I mentioned in my previous post, it would seem that the U.S. couldn't possibly be doing a worse job of stopping Iran from getting WMDs.

If the U.S. truely were serious about stopping nuclear proliferation it would:
i) stop funding the nuclear weapons programmes of Israel, India, and Pakistan
ii) push for a nuclear weapons free zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East


And... here's a really crazy thought... offer to give up a few of its own! After all, it could probably spare a couple from its considerable arsenal of around 5,000.

But they won't....
02-27-2012 , 06:10 AM
It's also sad how the U.N. is dominated by the U.S. who so blatently exploit it for their geostrategic, economic, and ideological purposes and routinely ignore it on the rare occasion when it refuses to be obedient. Same goes for NATO.

The whole reason for the U.N. being founded is to limit unilateral aggression of powerful states. Well, that hasn't worked out very well, has it?
02-27-2012 , 07:31 PM
Q: how does the US "accidentally" burn Qu'ran's in Kabul?
02-27-2012 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The right wing spin machine is in high gear lately.
She-Ninjas tho.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...sassins-video/
02-27-2012 , 10:49 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/wo...bomb.html?_r=2

Idk if it was posted already, but this deserves some mention.

This has been the consensus view of all 16 American intelligence agencies since 2007. While it is no debate that Iran has been enriching uranium and pursuing some of the necessary infrastructure needed to become a nuclear power, the CIA and several other agencies hold the view that Iran abandoned a parallel program needed to design a warhead since 2003.

Last edited by WeakerthanPaul; 02-27-2012 at 11:05 PM. Reason: excerpt/synopsis from article
02-27-2012 , 11:16 PM
Doesn't matter. They are the enemy. The USA has to always have an enemy to keep the perpetuated war on terror alive.
02-27-2012 , 11:39 PM
This is true ofc

Pretty absurd how most major news pundits and officials seeking or already in office insist that Iran is on its way to producing a warhead, when their own intelligence agencies don't agree with that very notion.
02-28-2012 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerIMO
It's also sad how the U.N. is dominated by the U.S. who so blatently exploit it for their geostrategic, economic, and ideological purposes and routinely ignore it on the rare occasion when it refuses to be obedient. Same goes for NATO.
What other countries geo-strategic, economic, and ideological purposes should they be focused on when "exploiting" it?

This is comparable to blaming a US citizen for "exploiting" benefits for their own personal geo-strategic, economic and ideological purposes. Or simply utilizing the benefits in place to best serve their own interest.

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Originally Posted by PokerIMO
The whole reason for the U.N. being founded is to limit unilateral aggression of powerful states. Well, that hasn't worked out very well, has it?
Wonder why? A nations interest is self-serving and consequently have competing objectives with other self-serving nations. Just another one of those idealistic and great ideas on paper until everyone once again learns the lesson that we do not live idealistically, we live realistically.
02-28-2012 , 06:00 AM
FleeingFish - I basically agree with you. They can, so they do, but that doesn't make it right.

Just making the point that the we, the world, won't be seeing much peace until the members of the so-called free world stand up to the Mafia Don (U.S.) the next time he tries to shake down some third-world country for its resources.
02-28-2012 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by spike420211
Q: how does the US "accidentally" burn Qu'ran's in Kabul?
Prolly made out of paper.
02-28-2012 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerIMO
FleeingFish - I basically agree with you. They can, so they do, but that doesn't make it right.

Just making the point that the we, the world, won't be seeing much peace until the members of the so-called free world stand up to the Mafia Don (U.S.) the next time he tries to shake down some third-world country for its resources.
That means you better look out Kiwi. Cause at some point you might have something we want.
02-28-2012 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerIMO
FleeingFish - I basically agree with you. They can, so they do, but that doesn't make it right.

Just making the point that the we, the world, won't be seeing much peace until the members of the so-called free world stand up to the Mafia Don (U.S.) the next time he tries to shake down some third-world country for its resources.

I'm not exactly sure what third world country we'd shake down as they likely relegated to that role due to lack of resources. Besides that, in most cases, what the best for the US is normally best for the rest of the world at least economically.
02-28-2012 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Taking Manies
You sir are a conspiracy theorist. Of course the Iranians aren't going to wipe Israel off the map. Obv they are not going to attack anyone with a nuke. People like to think the worst possible situation, Iran talk of wiping Israel off the map is just rhetoric an intentional mistranslation. The people in power wanna stay in power so they spew these dumb lines getting the people to rally behind them. This is all a big joke but it would not surprise me if we hit Iran
FYP

Additionally, I have no idea how your post makes sense as a response to the post it is quoting (U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb)
02-28-2012 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WeakerthanPaul
This is true ofc

Pretty absurd how most major news pundits and officials seeking or already in office insist that Iran is on its way to producing a warhead, when their own intelligence agencies don't agree with that very notion.
Wanted to point out a few things because I think this is not entirely accurate.

Firstly, intelligence most often lacks certainty. For example US intelligence agencies currently think it is very unlikely (but possible) that Iran currently possesses a nuclear weapon.

Most importantly those very agencies who say it was halted in 2003 also believe it is highly likely that Iran will at the least become an undeclared ( nuclear ambiguity) nuclear power by 2015.

      
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