Your revolution is over mr walking. Condolences. The bigots lost. The bigots will always lose.* My advice is to do what your parents did when faced with desegregation, seeth quietly and tune into am radio sir.



*eventually

So its controversial because people are arguing about it and people should be able to argue about it because its still controversial? It seems pretty damn settled to me. To the highest court in your land too. Maybe you live in saudi arabia or russia or something but over here we've settled the issue. Turns out people can marry who they like no matter the combination of their genitals. Sorry for the spoilers.

I think he just means relatively. Like, if I hear somebody talk about how they're against interracial marriage I think they stepped out of a time machine or are trolling, but if they're against gay marriage I think, ok, we're still barely in the window, on the cusp, of this qualifying as "new stuff" so there's time for the slow children to catch up. True social acceptance just takes time.

Grunch #1:

First 3 replies and already 5star thread IMO.

I just realized that, outside of the religious argument, I don't even know WHAT the arguments against gay marriage ARE... I don't mean 'good' arguments (lol) I mean any argument isn't directly or indirectly related to religion and isn't simply 'I hate gay people'. Like, if somebody were to ask me why person such-and-such is against gay marriage I'd have to reply, "uh, I honestly don't know... I guess they really don't like gay people. God may or may not have something to do with this dislike."

I guess the 'eroding the sanctity of traditional marriage, making babies and stuff' one might qualify but that a) IMO has shades of religion and general dislike/hatred and b) just highlights the potential silliness of the concept of marriage and not anything gay marriage specific.

p.s. Actually the 'marriage is about a man and woman making babies' argument is deliciously dystopic IMO, like, in the future 90% of hetero marriages are nullified and babies only come from specialized and qualified breeders.

Is this the court that discovered corporations are people?

To be consistent you should scream BIGOT at anyone who opposes corporate marriages.

Why is that necessary to be consistent?

You mean like mergers?

Like where they can claim the spousal privilege.

I'm willing to cross that bridge when we come to it.

Lol, you say that often. Check your posting history. You post a lot in smp. The handful of smp regs who started posting (terribly) in politics following the BruceZ meltdown may have dissipated in the last year, so hopefully your hangup with "smp crew" is that the crew is now down to you.

lol. I want to see your favorite source that backs this ridiculous assertion up.

He's independently confirmed it by thinking about it.

Really - you're saying it's just Fly still being hung up on some nonsense about that? Seems unfair to lay that on him.

Do you think he has any disagreement at all with my posts on the TA, free speech or any of the other issues? Do you?

No, what I'm saying is what I said in my post. Fly wasn't mentioned in my post. And trying to control what I "lay" on him, whatever you mean by that, is jokes.

Also, don't ask me anything chez.

? you were responding the discussion about what Fly meant. You cant then say it's not about what he meant

and if you don't want to be asked about the content of the thread then don't respond or address me. I'm always going to try to get back to the content. There's PU if you have no interest in the content.

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That's how it is LG

Did want to discuss any of the content? Anything you disagree about or wish to discuss further or have anything to add to?

Ive made numerous posts in this thread about safe spaces. You can peruse them at your leisure.

But please, don't let me stop you from the content of which poster has behaved how in the safe space thread.

So have I and as far I can tell we agree on this stuff.

That's fine. It makes a lot more sense to be talking about the content to people we disagree with.

My view on this subject is, obviously and as with the other 50 times we've discussed this, very different from your view and FoldN's view.

So what do you think you and I disagree on about the substance.

Cmon let's see if we can actually manage a discussion on the content.

No, I wasn't. If that's how you interpreted my comment re. SMP, ok fine, for clarification Fly has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm simply (and pointlessly on my end, fml) pointing out then anytime someone in P or PU connects your name with SMP, you feign ignorance as if you've never heard of that forum, let alone are a reg there.

Peruse my substantive posts upthread at your leisure chez. Not interested in wistfully musing about a subject addressed many times.

Ive seen no areas of disagreement. No surprise as I'm pretty sure we don't disagree.