Ok I'll be honest I'm kinda trolling you. I don't think you're intellectually or psychologically capable of having an honest discussion about this. Sorry to string you along.
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Interesting post, but yeah, I had not read it previously, and I haven't read many of you posts because they seem tend to be pretty irrelevant or repetitive of previously covered topics. This one isn't bad, though at approx 200,000 words it's no wonder I skipped it too. Fyi, if anyone gets a sad that I didn't respond to you, it's either because I didn't read your post for various reasons not always having to do with you, or I did, and it was not worth responding to for various reasons usually having to do with you.
Anyway, as I've repeatedly stated throughout this thread, beginning with my second post, the biggest issue is not with individual safe spaces as support groups, which are probably pretty workable and I expect will continue to evolve, but with demands for classrooms and entire campuses to become safe spaces at the expense of academic freedom. Practically all of the critics I've linked, many of them civil rights activists and minorities themselves, have expressed empathy at the plight of disadvantaged groups while also questioning the impact the movement to restrict free expression has on learning, and whether it really is helpful with regard to minority well being.
Someone asked if I watch these videos and read the posts I link, and the answer is yes, often multiple times. If you are actually interested in the arguments, I suggest you try that, because it's clear I can't convince many of you.
I assume the bold is finally your response to this:
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Originally Posted by 5ive
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A young person today, a HS or early college kid, with even the mildest curiosity can find and tune in to a 365/24/7 tunnel of hate directed right at them. This is unprecedented. Imagine seeing that racist graffiti, that n-----s-go-home, then going online and seeing 1000s of US citizens cosigning such in real time; or seeing that Klan or Neo-Nazi rally held in a park at the outskirts of Chicago in the early 80s, going online and seeing the same cosigning, that it's not a fringe but apparently the tip of a hate iceberg. A hateberg, if you will. Even the civil rights trailblazers, after battling fire hoses and attack dogs, would earn a slight reprieve during the quiet times. MLK didn't have a smartphone that would alert him in the dark of night, showing him those replies to his twitter feed, random people from Montana or The Dakotas saying things like, "Lol i'm glad those dogs like dark meat!1!" or, "hey guyz save some fire hose water for the rest of the coons!" with a bunch of Nebraskans and Idahoans "liking" these replies.
It's natural for a human to think their burden is the heaviest when they're feeling particularly emotional, and it's ultimately ridiculous to even try to quantify burdens, but psychologically a young so-called person-of-color faces an historically unique burden by having constant, live and direct hate only a mouseclick away. If you can't at least see how this translates to safe spaces and trigger warnings, largely separate from "suppression" of "free" speech, then you're part of the problem.
That's, like, literally all you're capable of, with this platform you have to discuss and explore these OMGTABOO subjects that the ILLIBERALS are trying to SUPPRESS. Because let's be honest, you don't care attt allllll about exploring any aspect of what might contribute to this ISSUE, any words or deeds that are complicit in making young college kids feel literally, not figuratively, unsafe. Zero ownership on that end.
That road leads to you maybe kinda sorta admitting that BruceZ, and in conjunction, you, might be a little bit of a narrow-minded racist bigot. You're transparent and boring.
p.s.
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Uh, I repeat myself because many people clearly don't read my posts or read the articles I've posted and then bitch about not understanding what I'm talking about... it's no big deal, but it's why I've had to repeat myself so often. Anyway this is pretty rich coming from someone who claims to have read the entire thread, but clearly didn't even know my stance on abuse of safe spaces that I've repeated a dozen or so times, and has steadfastly refused to make whatever argument you claim follows from the video you posted.
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Aye, keep believing that when people disagree with you, and repeatedly tell you so, and spell out the disagreement, they're just faking it and they really just don't understand you. Unexploitable strat imo.
Last edited by 5ive; 07-26-2016 at 10:42 PM.
