Show me the post where I said this

(Immediately quotes his own posts where he said this)

Bold strategy

I generally prefer calling peoples bigots to racists just because it means we don't have to do this ****ing "um no cause jews/muslims/mexicans/etc" are not a race so its not racist thing.

Amazing.

Yeah, you beat me to the punch, but while I might have lazily skipped the second quote, I would have quoted exactly your first and 3rd quotes here to support my characterization of your posting, and I maintain that my summary is accurate.

It's not just a technicality, most microaggressions (at least the ones being objected to) are much more like your first example, they're honest mistakes that are blown way out of proportion. Nobody is arguing that telling anyone, much less a minority, to go home and get his shine box wouldn't be highly offensive.

Ignorance is definitely an excuse. If I made a dumb joke that ended with "but you **** one goat!" not knowing that your mother died while being ****ed by a goat, it's an unfortunate situation. I'd probably forgive you for punching me though, and we'd move on. (hey, is this where "punch line" comes from?)

The first example you gave is much more like what is being criticized about overreactions to microaggressions, ie, people looking very hard for reasons to get upset. Furthermore, in an honor culture, it would not be acceptible to shoot someone in the foot over a mixed up drink order. Tommy dishonored himself by overreacting, making a mountain out of a molehill, and even his peers recognized it. Similarly guys like fly dishonor themselves by overreacting, often simply making **** up to be "offended" about, and most of his peers recognize that too. Then again, most of them are about as dishonorable as he is, so they cheer him on.

FFS. We sign posted this for you right in the ****ing name. They are called MICROaggressions. They are practically be definition not being blown out of proportion. Of course we all know that you will obsess over every egregious case of someone daring to use the wrong tone on calling something a microaggressions (but strangely never tone police for racism ITT, how strange), but any good faith discussion has to recognize that the whole point of the idea of microaggressions is that while important in aggregate it is decided more MICRO - see the name!


dieing from goats is an isolated problem, not a systemic one. That's the whole ****ing point, and why your cute fake anecdote misses the mark entirelu. Talking about microaggressions and forcing that idea into the public consciousness helps us to recognize that unthinking cultural habits contribute negatively and we should consciously work to end those.

Sadly, your entire contribution in this thread to date seems to mainly be trying to tone police a safe space where no victim is allowed to raise these points too sternly because oh think of the white people who will offended from public shaming! THAT is the core issue we should worry about!

If we took how people behave here as representative then it would be implausible to believe anything isn't blown out of proportion. The idea the Fly's of this world can keep anything in proportion is a joke isn't it?

I console myself with the belief this place doesn't in fact represent the real world very well. Liberals do not in real life spend their lives making stuff up, being hyperbolic and trying to be mean.

Should I phone the wambulance?

If you need one.

I was offering for you, silly

Oh ok, no thanks. I have no use for one.

One of the thing's I keep waiting for is Foldn to break out this sense of humor that is so important to him. He loves to point out how everybody were has "sticks in their asses" who can't take a joke, but while everybody else here gets in some good ones (hell, even Chezlaw cracks wise now and then), Foldn remains resolutely humorless and oblivious. He's like the the only non-funny person itt (at least since DMW and Ikestoys dropped out)!

But here we go, finally a pun! And a joke about jokes at that, I guess we can consider this meta-humor. Maybe foldn went to college after all.

Coulda fooled me! I'm sorry that mean ole Fly bothers you

Fox News panel discusses microaggressions

You seem confused. Fly trying to be mean doesn't bother me at all.

It would be sad if this place were representative of liberalism in general but I'm confident it isn't. I doubt even fly behaves like he does here in real life.

Sure, if you just lie about and mischaracterize ~everything that liberals call a microaggression, this is true.

What we have found is that there is no level of reaction in response to a racial slight that Foldn finds appropriate. The only appropriate response is no response.

What is really important for "real life liberals" is tone policing anyone saying anything remotely negative about bigoted and racist posts and making sure we validate all racist and bigoted posts, no matter how ignorant or ill informed, by, at worst, asking gentle probing questions with absolutely no follow up taking complete care not to hurt the feelings of any bigots.

Is that true? Objection to things being blown way out of proportion doesn't sound like an objection to them being responded to.

Foldn do you object to any response to a racial slight?

I ain't confused, babe. Just trying to help console you.

It's brave of you to put up a front and say Fly doesn't bother you, but honey, it's a little unseemly to do so immediately after you said otherwise.

Of course not. I got in a fist fight in high school when a bunch of rednecks called by buddy a n-----. I'd probably do it again. There is a bit of the honor culture still in me today, and I'm not ashamed.

These conversations get stale because everyone talks past each other. Speaking in generalities will do that. Criticisms of microaggressions and safe spaces tend to be about their abuses, when they are overreacted to and when really stupid, transparently partisan things are lumped in with them, like "America is a meritocracy." It's too cumbersome to always be specific, especially when those specifics are simply ignored. The term "safe space" has really gotten away from the proponents of them due to their ignoring of such abuses, and probably the term microaggression too.

Well, I guess Foldn has conceded that there exist racial slights, like calling someone the n-word to their face, but I guess it's more honest to say that he is the final arbiter of all racial slights. If he doesn't think it's a racial slight, then the offended should not be offended and shouldn't say anything. And since he's more than willing to lie and mischaracterize things to twist slights to be less so, the list of genuine slights is pretty short and impossible to expand.

Lol, and now a literal White Knight story! An embarrassment of riches.

I'm afraid you are confused, lets try to clear it up for you.

Fly trying to be mean doesn't bother me at all.

Iit would bother me if what goes on here by a group I largely identify with was representative of liberalism - that certainly concerns me but I'm consoled by not believing it is representative.

Hope that helps.

I mean, the statement, "America is a meritocracy," is, when coupled with the most minimal of empirical observation, an outright assertion that black people are inferior. It necessarily follows. But hey, we wouldn't want to jar white people who bandy about harmless racist comments like that! Shut up, black people, the white people didn't intend to offend!