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Rush Limbaugh Demands Sex Videos If Women Use Contraception Covered by Health Insurance Rush Limbaugh Demands Sex Videos If Women Use Contraception Covered by Health Insurance

03-06-2012 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Case Closed
Or is anyone who fights for something you don't agree with an attention whore?
No, just people who cry wolf in order to make their argument seem more legitimate.


Edit: Inbefore people sift through my 3800+ posts looking for hyperbole.
03-06-2012 , 12:57 PM
@flywf

There's a reason she's at Georgetown and not some other school. That's what I was referring to.

And she was hand picked to speak at the press conference, so it's not like she somehow luckboxed her way into the limelight.
03-06-2012 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
@flywf

There's a reason she's at Georgetown and not some other school. That's what I was referring to.

And she was hand picked to speak at the press conference, so it's not like she somehow luckboxed her way into the limelight.
Yes, people are often picked to speak at press conferences. Congress isn't the lotto.
03-06-2012 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
@flywf

There's a reason she's at Georgetown and not some other school. That's what I was referring to.
Because she's smart and got accepted?

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And she was hand picked to speak at the press conference, so it's not like she somehow luckboxed her way into the limelight.
Because she knows a lot about the issue that was being discussed?


I don't even know what these arguments are supposed to prove.
03-06-2012 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
No, just people who cry wolf in order to make their argument seem more legitimate.


Edit: Inbefore people sift through my 3800+ posts looking for hyperbole.
Do explain how this is the case. Because I don't see where you're getting this from.
03-06-2012 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
No, just people who cry wolf in order to make their argument seem more legitimate.


Edit: Inbefore people sift through my 3800+ posts looking for hyperbole.
Didn't you call her an attention whore? That is hyperbole, and that was like 2 posts ago.
03-06-2012 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by willie24
why are we arguing about what various health plans should and should not include? it's like arguing about what toppings pizzas should be required to have. just stop forcing employers to be part of it and let buyers decide for themselves.
You can't just ignore that most Americans already get their health insurance through employer-provided group plans. The mandatory birth control inclusion was common at the state level, and common in most plans, as far as I can tell. Obamacare made it a federal requirement but exempted religious employers (followed by religiously-affiliated employers, who can drop whatever from their group policy but the insurance company must offer a policy to employees directly which includes the item). The Blunt amendment to some highway bill tried to expand the exemption to any employer, and would have allowed them to drop coverage of anything mandated federally if they objected to it on religious or "moral" grounds. Employers would therefore be empowered to exert personal influence over their employees' health-care decisions on their behalf, based on nothing but a conviction about what kind of care they should get.

So not just birth control was in trouble. If the Blunt amendment passed Jehovah's Witness employers would be free to drop blood transfusions from their coverage, and Jenny McCarthy followers could drop childhood vaccinations.

I'm not surprised it failed, but am surprised it failed by only three votes.
03-06-2012 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I love that Fluke's scheme here was to go to law school in the hopes that at some point in the future the Obama administration would, at some point, issue some minor direction on contraception coverage.

At that point, obviously the right wing would try to turn it into some sort of ******ed wedge issue and have Issa invite an entirely male panel to a committee hearing to whine about Obama's war on religion, which in turn would make Democrats respond by inviting Fluke to testify, which in turn would make Rush Limbaugh single her out for 3 days of abuse.

She put herself in this situation on purpose in order to further her cause.
You forgot, "Affirmative action was implemented to allow her to get into law school," imo.
03-06-2012 , 01:09 PM
Testifying before Congress is Saul Alinsky tactics!!

Didn't anyone read The Road to Serfdom???? Hayek warned about the evils of health insurance!!
03-06-2012 , 01:09 PM
But the real ******* here is Limbaugh for playing right into their hands and letting this debate be about Fluke and contraception instead of the 1st amendment.

Carry on with the circle jerk. I'll show myself out.

Last edited by MrWookie; 03-06-2012 at 01:49 PM.
03-06-2012 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
You people are dense. But the real ******* here is Limbaugh for playing right into their hands and letting this debate be about Fluke and contraception instead of the 1st amendment.

Carry on with the circle jerk. I'll show myself out.
something something door hit something way out.
03-06-2012 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by forbidden fruit
shows how much respect he has for women by calling Rush a prostitute and a bitch.
What does calling a man a prostitute have to do with women? You know that men can be prostitutes too, right? Why do you think the term applies only to women?

Like women are going to be pissed at Michael Moore:

"He called Rush a bitch? How insensitive, that's what we get to be called!"
03-06-2012 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
But the real ******* here is Limbaugh for personally attacking a woman and making this about sex, prostitution and sex videos rather than the medical necessity of contraception that she originally testified about.
FYP
03-06-2012 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
What does calling a man a prostitute have to do with women? You know that men can be prostitutes too, right? Why do you think the term applies only to women?

Like women are going to be pissed at Michael Moore:

"He called Rush a bitch? How insensitive, that's what we get to be called!"
Evidently it's respectful of women to recognize that terms like prostitute, slut, whore, bitch, etc. are terms that only refer to them.
03-06-2012 , 01:30 PM
Inso, do you have any cites on you calling those priests who testified in congress on this issue attention religious activists who get off on being annoying attention whores? You could always do so now retroactively given we didnt discuss them in their own thread if you want.

Keep in mind they put themselves in this situation on purpose to further their own cause so its perfectly fine to accurately call them all annoying attention whore activists.

Do you realise that given the church is given tax breaks ordinary Americans across the country are paying these priests to not have sex!
03-06-2012 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by forbidden fruit
The most obvious problem is Moore’s use of the word “bitch” as an insult to Limbaugh, which, in this context, is intended to simultaneously feminize Limbaugh, and to mock that feminization. Earlier in his barrage, he also retweets the use of the phrase “bitch-slapped,” which not only employs the same epithet, but also makes light of violence against women.

Now, both of these usages are quite common in popular culture, and people who use them are oftentimes probably not thinking about what they’re saying (although they should be). But when you’re taking someone to task for using sexually hostile language, there’s really no excuse for it.

Less obvious is Moore’s slam at prostitutes, specifically that they “obey the men that pay” them. However you feel about the morality of prostitution, this comment displays several levels of fundamental ignorance about the trade. Many of the women who engage in prostitution do so under the constant threat of violence, come from violent, sexually abusive backgrounds, and have no protection under the law. Call it a “choice” if you want, but even those who “choose” such a life don’t do so with the understanding that they must “obey” the men who pay them; a woman who has been paid can still say “no.”

In any case, the moralistic point of view that leads Michael Moore to insult Limbaugh as a “prostitute,” rather than as the never-insulting “gigolo,” is the same one that led Limbaugh to call women who use birth control sluts. Sex is a choice for men, and a shame for women.

OBV
Man, how long were you sitting on this waiting for someone to reply so you could post it?
03-06-2012 , 01:31 PM
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She's a liberal activist who gets off on being an annoying attention whore.
And the men who testified in front of the Republicans were...attention citizens?
03-06-2012 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by forbidden fruit
OBV
That's a stretch, but I'll grant the bitch could be seen as sexist. I'd imagine a lot of feminists would agree with your arguments.
03-06-2012 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Grunch:

Isn't Rush's entire MO to illustrate absurdity by being absurd? How do you guys even have the energy to get outraged over **** he says anymore?

Why is nobody focusing on the fact that this chick is a 30 year old activist who is claiming that birth control costs $3000? Or how about the fact that all of this happened on a glorified DNC press conference?

How the hell is this thread almost 500 responses long?

Also, what the hell is all of our Planned Parenthood subsidy money going for if not for birth control?
LOL at defending Rush. I assume "you guys" also refers to corporate advertisers that seem to be running to get away from Rush and his show.

So if Fluke really was just a planted womens' rights/Democratic plant, then Rush was a fool to take the bait so completely and lose one advertiser after another.
03-06-2012 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Do you realise that given the church is given tax breaks ordinary Americans across the country are paying these priests to not have sex!
Actually we kinda are
03-06-2012 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Grunch:

Isn't Rush's entire MO to illustrate absurdity by being absurd? How do you guys even have the energy to get outraged over **** he says anymore?
Because Rush going the way of Glenn Beck would show that this country is growing/wising up just a tad and give some of us optimism for the future. This mass sponsor exodus doesn't bode well for him.
03-06-2012 , 02:54 PM
Personally, I'm wondering what absurdity Inso thinks needed illustration by calling this woman a whore.
03-06-2012 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Because Rush going the way of Glenn Beck would show that this country is growing/wising up just a tad and give some of us optimism for the future. This mass sponsor exodus doesn't bode well for him.
I wish I could believe this, but this incident doesn't even make the top 10 list of **** that Rush has inexplicably survived in his career.
03-06-2012 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Personally, I'm wondering what absurdity Inso thinks needed illustration by calling this woman a whore.
03-06-2012 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0

There's a reason she's at Georgetown and not some other school.
She got good grades and a high LSAT score?

actually, no, I bet she was dead set on going to Widener until she realized she might one day be able to get mentioned by Rush Limbaugh if she went to Georgetown instead.

      
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