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10-06-2013 , 04:41 PM

#276

daca

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

Why is a psychiatric institute more valid a place to keep her than prison?

because there's clearly something wrong with her and she clearly isnt capable of taking care of her own life. punishment probably doesnt help anyone, though if she's dangerous she should be confined somehow, but psychiatric treatment more likely does.

10-06-2013 , 05:05 PM

#277

Paul D

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Maybe send her to one of the dorm style prisons in Norway where she can eat bon bons?

10-06-2013 , 05:26 PM

#278

pvn

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Philll, just curious, how did you determine 15 years is just right?

10-06-2013 , 05:36 PM

#279

Paul D

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NSFW

http://www.vice.com/read/we-spoke-to...-baptists-lawn

lol westboro lol pervs

10-06-2013 , 05:41 PM

#280

Fishmonger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

USA system definitely operates on the action of you killed a kid, you're going to jail for a long time. Not a very good argument, but the conclusion of 15 years, most likely serving 8-10 is reasonable.

Well, the serving 8-10 is reasonable would be under US law. Don't know if that is how it works in britain/england/dragons.

In the UK most serve about half of their determinate sentence. She'll be out in 7 most likely.

10-06-2013 , 05:54 PM

#281

[Phill]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daca

What specifically makes you think a psychiatric facility would better help her take care of herself than a prison?

You seem to have this weird view that prison is super punishing but being confined to a mental health facility is much easier and it is going to help integrate her more back into society but that just isn't reality.

It just isn't clear to me why a centre that should be dealing with the mentally ill is best suited to help an addict. It's not like they have more experience doing so than prison.

10-06-2013 , 05:59 PM

#282

Paul D

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

10-06-2013 , 06:08 PM

#283

[Phill]

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Mental health confinement is no better than prison and depending on her details could be considerably worse than prison.

10-06-2013 , 06:10 PM

#284

champstark

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wow

Phill gonna Phill

just an amazingly horrible series of posts

10-06-2013 , 06:14 PM

#285

airwave16

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Originally Posted by Paul D

NSFW

http://www.vice.com/read/we-spoke-to...-baptists-lawn

lol westboro lol pervs

calling themselves gay-friendly when they like to call everyone f*gs in their music is a bit ironic.

10-06-2013 , 06:14 PM

#286

daca

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

Mental health confinement is no better than prison and depending on her details could be considerably worse than prison.

a mental health institution doesnt have to mean 24 hours a day at a hospital. it could be some kind open institution or protected living facility.

i find it a little hard to believe prison is a better option for her, but if it is then it should be prison or freedom depending on what's better for everyone.

10-06-2013 , 06:17 PM

#287

ikestoys

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Phill-

One flew over the cuckoo's nest is not an accurate description of mental health confinement today.

10-06-2013 , 07:09 PM

#288

JimAfternoon

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Greek lawmakers say Germany owes $220B reparations

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-Ne...9141381097693/

10-06-2013 , 07:11 PM

#289

ikestoys

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rofl that's awesome

10-07-2013 , 03:11 AM

#290

O.A.F.K.1.1

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"So instead, they agree to pay back the occupation loan. Maybe it is easier to sell that to the German public."

How bout no.

10-07-2013 , 08:15 AM

#291

champstark

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Meh I've got no problem with that. Germany should have to pay for all of eternity for what it did.

10-07-2013 , 08:18 AM

#292

ikestoys

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Originally Posted by champstark

Meh I've got no problem with that. Germany should have to pay for all of eternity for what it did.

lol you serious?

10-07-2013 , 08:22 AM

#293

MidyMat

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I thought Italy invaded Greece first, then like a year later Germany invaded. Maybe they should go after Italy too!

10-07-2013 , 08:22 AM

#294

champstark

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

lol you serious?

If they haven't repaid Greece for raping and pillaging the country and forcibly taking money from them, you think that should just go away?

As far as the paying for eternity goes, maybe it doesn't mean monetary debt but Germany should be reminded forever of what happened in WWII.

10-07-2013 , 08:24 AM

#295

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

yeah there are legal frameworks in post WWII europe dude get your **** together.

10-07-2013 , 08:27 AM

#296

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

yeah there are legal frameworks in post WWII europe dude get your **** together.

Are you disagreeing with me or what?

If they forcibly took a loan from Greece and never paid it back, they should give them the money, no?

Of course there's some legal path here, I'm sure.