Saudi Arabia being taken over by someone like Saddam Hussein would be very very bad for us. And the Saudi's asked us to be there. But in your world we should have declined because it might piss off potential terrorists.

Btw as someone said Germany did have die-hard nazi believers for many years, called werewolves that caused all kinds of havoc. Didn't have anything to do with us pissing them off but their own fanaticism. By the same token once the Emperor told the Japanese to get in line, they by and large stood down. Different cultures, different levels of fanaticism. How much we pissed them off doesn't seem important to the equation.

Obviously I would not use those passages trying to get people to vote for a candidate. But getting people to think for themselves with things people kneejerk into thinking is a good purpose of government and challenging them to defend it is what gets people who can actually understand things rather than just casually support it (like Val did last year).

I'm not interested in trying to advertise to random people, only speak the truth in here. If someone wants to argue, that's fine. If I was trying to be an evangelist, I clearly would pick my battles.

RP on Freedom Watch right now.

All health problems besides birth defects? LOL. Yes, someone who gets breast cancer when it runs in the family clearly must have done something to get that.

This gem should not be allowed to slip through the cracks.

How about it, Libertines? Why are you all of a sudden objecting to adults entering into a legal contract of their own will? US military has been 100% volunteer for decades, so why all the bleeding hearts for the children?

Your boss being mean to you isn't even close to being on the same level of violation as sexual harassment.

If my only recourse in a case of sexual harassment is to quit, then that gives all the power to the harasser. Quitting a job is always a big life-changing event. Doing so unexpectedly would be even worse. It's vastly easier for the company to replace me and my skills than it is for me to find another job.

When you say the Saudis, you mean the Saudi elite. That is not the same as the Saudi people. Yes, cultures play a factor. There's also an analogy about not swinging a bat at a hornets nest.

Super double bold on "so-called" harassment if I could.

Ron Paul picked that battle, though. For a reason. And I know you're just spreading the truth, but this "if people don't like sexual harassment they can just quit, aren't strippers just full time sexual harassees?, etc." lane will end up with you using your crystal clear libertarian logic skills to argue that OSHA and minimum wage and child labor laws are all unnecessary infringements on freedom of contract, then it's time for ye olde child prostitution freakout.

And we won't even have zan nen this time.

A lot of people recognize that there is a disparity in negotiating position between employee and employer. There's a lot of (lizardperson mainstream) economics about it, but we don't need to go over it, you just need to be aware that the majority of Americans understand that intuitively and from there support a whole ****load of "unlibertarian" employee protection laws.

What if your boss owns the company or his/her boss won't listen and the company is too small to have an HR department?

Whatever you think about this, at least realize this is a very clear cut moral issue that people generally don't have much problem wrapping their heads around, and most of them don't agree with RP's stated POV here. In fact I would venture to say a majority would find it abhorrent.

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Nevermind I see it.
Not that surprising though, well in line with his other beliefs.

Then you quit?

I mean, what if the boss is a complete dick to me and cusses me out every day? Do I need a special federal law for this, too?

So you don't care about all the extra deaths that would most certainly cause if a big civil war broke out? Again who has the market cornered on caring about brown people again? Also wouldn't our enemies just learn to scatter and wait us out if we simply came in, blew up some buildings, then left before any entity that was strong enough to stand on it's own could be established?

Again I don't think most people would agree that simply toppling the regime and bugging out is at the top of any of the options. I mean these are borderline ridiculous. If you go in you have to see it through.

Smokers? Over eaters? I assume RP has a lots of passages blasting them as much as the gay community right?

Tom you've been given solid answers by me and fly and just keep making the same statement. You may win this by obtuse.

I don't really care what reason he picks for it.

Yes, there is a disparity in it. Sometimes it's toward the employee, sometimes it's toward the employer. I don't care how dumb the American public is or not. We live in a world full of suzzer's and soccer moms, I am aware. I have little faith that the dumb masses will ever be converted with any real thought. Which is why I only care about trying to reach people who have those kinds of critical thinking skills rather than playing politics and trying to reach those who do not have those skills. Obviously are those who do have those skills and disagree and still could never be convinced due to preferences, but that's fine, as long as they let me be and I let them be, no one is worse off.

This is a money quote, by the way. Hows come there aint no White History Month, amirite?

I remember a very famous clip on the Morton Downey Jr. show where he rips a guy for being fat and being more at risk for death. I can only speak for statements given, not that he didn't rip out every person as needed. Don't forget that AIDS was also quite big among intraveinous drug users which are included.

You guys are putting the words "gay community there". Oh noes, it be code words, like "bankers".

Your only answer is "the majority find it abhorrent". I don't base morality on what the majority thinks, sorry.

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ITT TomCollins becomes a moral relativist.

When does the disparity in negotiating position ever favor the employee here in libertarian world?

I also always enjoy the "my ideas are not very popular, therefore everyone else must be dumb" defense.

Are you saying that sometimes progressive ideas, while controversial at the time, eventually become more generally accepted mainstream thought - and any comments made from the past should be viewed through that prism?

If so, I concur.

But let's "see it through to the end, dude".

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...sment-victims/