Why didn't you post this BEFORE I made my long post, I could have just +1ed it

TV are you currently registered as an R or haven't done it yet iyo?


I'm prob gonna do it soon. I know I have plenty of time but want to do it now to get it done imo.

you made me remember the article with your "Bush lite" comment =)

This.

I registered as an R for the last election. We held delegate training in my store and used it as a home base for meetings and such during the election. Lots of great people that I'm still very much involved with as 2012 approaches. (That's the great thing about Ron Paul, his support doesn't go anywhere!) I ended up going to the state convention as a delegate and we won our district for Ron Paul. (As an aside, I can tell you a hilarious story from the convention if you're interested)

I still throw away every piece of "Send us money" junkmail I get from the GOP. **** those guys.

do tell

The year is 2008. The place, the Spokane Convention Center. Our story begins as our hero wakes up 27 minutes before registration closes and the doors are locked. Perhaps the 2nd 12 pack was a bit much...........

So the convention starts on Saturday. There's an obvious division in the crowd. The McCain "supporters" and the Ron Paul supporters. (I put supporters in quotes because many of the people there hated McCain but wanted to "fall in line") The first speakers speak, and they note that there is this big divide, and talk about how we need to come together to defeat Obama. It's fairly well received.

We move on to the "business" of the convention, dividing into districts to vote for the national delegates. There's a little bit of contention in our district because it covers a lot of ground and in our area, we had a lot of Ron Paul supporters. Further to the east (typically more republican), there were McCain supporters. So we eventually pick our people (we win 3-2!!) and that's basically Saturday.

At this point tensions have been rising between the two groups all day, so it's good that we're done. The Ron Paul supporters have an awesome party that night. I presume the McCain supporters went to bed early.

So Sunday rolls around, and it's time to get to the tedious things, outlining the party platform, proposing resolutions, and that sort of stuff. The McCain supporters literally have people standing in the front of the room, holding up "Yes" or "No" flags, telling their troops how they want them to vote on certain issues. (Kinda freaky)

So after an hour or so of this, we get to the portion of the day where people propose resolutions that they've turned in the day before. And as one group, the McCain supporters get up and WALK OUT OF THE ROOM.

Somebody on the board questions if we have a quorum remaining. (If not, the convention is over immediately) So we have to count everybody remaining. That takes about 25 minutes. After the count is done, it's determined that we indeed DO have a quorum and the convention can continue.

Well, it's only us left in the room.

Let's introduce a resolution against the Iraq War!

The words "condemn the actions in Iraq" come out of the speakers mouth, and suddenly the McCainites FLOOD back into the room. Yes, they had tried to sabotage the remainder of the convention by denying a quorum and stood in the hallway for a half hour waiting to see if it would work. The chairman looks flabbergasted as these people come back in and take their seats.

Quick video of the walkout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAkiA...eature=related

If you're really interested in watching, there's a 6 part video that outlines the last few hours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzblK...eature=related

I thought I was ready for anything at the convention, but they managed to go even lower than I thought.

Edit: Wow I guess it was closer to an hour that they stalled while we figured this out.

+1 to what AKSpartan and TomVeil have said about why they support Ron Paul. I feel very similar, with the same proirities. I was always an apathetic in-the-middle kind of guy who doesn't vote often (as South Park says, it's always choosing between a turd sandwich and a douche bag). But with Obama, at least I felt he would be end the wars and we know how that has gone. The clip Tom posted of him taking it to the bank is disgusting.

It does irk me that RP is, in my mind, a bit anti-science and anti-environment. I feel in his mind those lefty liberal academics are just ****ting on capitalism's fun when it comes to global warming (which he rants about in his new book with some hokey counter-science). That may be true, but there are good reasons to be concerned about climate change. This is the kind of stuff I study so it does feel pretty weird to support someone who is essentially a GW denialist, but I feel his viewpoints on other matters is just too important. And I do think he is an honorable, good man, and I did not think I can say this about ANY other politician. I even see the politics as usual, playing the red/blue card bull**** from his son. But not Ron.

Some people have said in this forum that anyone who wants to be president is still a power-seeker and will always have ulterior motives. I am pretty sure most of us RP supporters truly believe RP is not in this for power and that he actually believes so strongly in his ideals that he is driven simply to get the word out about them, and to have some influence to implement them. I am sure he gets a kick out of having so many people show up to his rallies but that is not why he has gotten to where he is; he's been called kooky for decades and still kept saying the same things.

lolitics

Exactly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-..._b_862315.html

lol @ people who support Ron Paul and think they are "conservatives".

Check the rules in your state. As far as I know, you don't have to register as a Republican to vote the R ballot in the primary. There is usually an option like undeclared (used to be called independent when I first started voting in the late 80's).

Every state is a little different but the way it works in New Hampshire is if you're undeclared you can ask for the ballot you want at the primary. You are then temporarily registered into that party. As soon as you finish voting you go over to the "master of the list" and switch back to undeclared.

The cut-off in NH for registering as undeclared (or changing parties) is the last date a candidate can declare entry into the race. The states probably differ on this too.

I switched this week from Dem to undeclared just so I don't forget.

U R RITE

wow, you go from getting butthurt as if you alone are singled out (you ain't that special of a snowflake) when a question of RP is raised, to then rejoin the collective cover party for anything Libertarian. As I posted, all of you Libertarians have been launching barbs at anything that disagrees with your stated philosophy, and now when a few barbs are tossed back, start to whine about it.

So its become obvious you aren't ready for a seat at the big boy political table. Your post reeks of Donald Trump's whine about not deserving of any attacks, you are to be treated more gently, that's rather pathetic based on you last line.

yea global warming is one thing i disagree with him on. im not saying properly enforced property laws will not reduce pollution. but im also not saying the government is stopping it either. i do acknowledge global warming but realize there is pretty much nothing we can do about it besides slow it down like 10% (at the cost of higher prices) until the technology is there.

its funny how many libertarians deny global warming, probably the only thing i disagree with them on. equally funny how many liberals love the environment but wont acknowledge how much "saving it" by like 10% hurts the poor with higher prices

It's not so much a denial of global warming, but a recognition that having government try to solve it would result in a giant cluster-**** of economy dampening regulations without reducing carbon much, if at all.

Better to have a robust free-market economy that can transition us away from fossil fuels in the most cost effective manner (rather than the manner which central planners choose to subsidize most heavily). And the strength of the economy can help mitigate some of the problems people face in dealing with climate change in the meantime.

I agree when the government comes into regulate things it can turn into a cluster**** and often special interests are those that come out on top. I am undecided though if the free-market would be best for these types of things though.. just a very tricky subject. But that's getting a little off-topic.

I would say that RP pretty much denies GW is happening in his new book. I will look it up later but he makes some references to solar variation as the reason for our current warming period.

VIDEO: "Ron Paul Loves To Work With Progressives & Socialist In Congress!" HILARIOUS! FOX Hit Piece

hahaha, that guy was great. He "gives libertarians a bad name (by doing libertarian things)" and he's not a "clear thinker (because he thinks differently than I do)".

jesus that was terrible and tilting. it prompted me to tweet some disgust at that dumb woman and the awful american thinking libertarian douche

Pretty hilarious how Reagan has been raised to hero status by the GOP and its media because people can't differentiate between political rhetoric and actual results/actions in office.

I think it has more to do with the fact that he won (twice) and to the extent that there were scandals in his presidency they can be ignored via a healthy dose of weepy-eyed nostalgia.

And wow where do they get these morons? Do people really watch this and think they're being informed? Ron Paul isn't getting "less crazy" or making "more sense" you dumb ****ing bimbo - he's been saying the same things all along. Nevertheless I'm surprised they aren't just ignoring him, that's probably a better strategy than bringing these ******s on for mindless hit pieces.