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01-26-2017 , 03:33 PM

#1601

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?

The Guardian is always a good source. But news are always at least a bit biased. Go to those that follow the journalistic rules and ethics. A go to in the USA seems to be the Washington Post, but i advice to rely on multiple sources, for some perspective you can try the Wall Street Journal.

But the best is to read a actually print (offline) newspaper. Online news always means you are just going for the most interesting headline while otherwise you also read the articles you normally wouldnt which is important.

01-26-2017 , 03:35 PM

#1602

Cornboy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

I hope the Iraqis who collaborated with US forces during the Iraq War all got out before now, otherwise gg

This American Life had a tremendously depressing story on this recently.

01-26-2017 , 03:35 PM

#1603

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

This is phenomenal. Some serious heat.

It´s from June...

01-26-2017 , 03:38 PM

#1604

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwn_Master

If Rs try to pass something and Ds filibuster it then maybe this strategy will work. But logically, I don't see how saying there is an impending disaster but I chose to do nothing about it for two years when I held all the power because "I didn't cause the problem" flies. That's crazy.

OTOH, logic has nothing to do with politics and Rs blatant attempt to steal a Supreme Court seat was rewarded with literally everything so who knows.

they can do anything they want. their supporters will never turn on them and will eat up whatever excuse they provide, esp if it is blaming, dems, poors, and blacks.

01-26-2017 , 03:38 PM

#1605

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?

I consider Reuters to be the most reliable source of news.

01-26-2017 , 03:39 PM

#1606

einbert

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Read different sources and engage in critical thinking. Being informed in 2017 takes work you can't just expect to read one source and be good.

01-26-2017 , 03:39 PM

#1607

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?

CBC, BBC, The Globe And Mail, National Post.

01-26-2017 , 03:40 PM

#1608

bbfg

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Watching his TV interview.

This is the most ridiculous **** ever. He wont make 1 year if he keeps ramping this up.

01-26-2017 , 03:40 PM

#1609

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JacktheDumb

It´s from June...

Didn't pick that up when I saw it on FB.

That dude is still going ham on twitter

https://twitter.com/RepFilemonVela?r...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

01-26-2017 , 03:41 PM

#1610

Namath12

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Originally Posted by Cornboy

This American Life had a tremendously depressing story on this recently.

I love this show and listen religiously, or so I thought, but I missed this one. Thanks for the heads-up.

01-26-2017 , 03:42 PM

#1611

jalfrezi

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BBC, the Guardian, The Independent.

Be very wary of the other major UK news outlets eg Mail Online - most have an agenda set by their owner.

01-26-2017 , 03:43 PM

#1612

ASAP17

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Hopefully someone already posted this but if not... GMAIL GUYS.

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/824664543091707905

01-26-2017 , 03:48 PM

#1613

BMOL33

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Agree on the international news sites. CNN and foxnews have basically become useless.

01-26-2017 , 03:48 PM

#1614

bbfg

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I just tried this and it's not gmail.

01-26-2017 , 03:49 PM

#1615

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Hopefully someone already posted this but if not... GMAIL GUYS.

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/824664543091707905

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbfg

I just tried this and it's not gmail.

They've updated it to whitehouse.gov addresses but it was a Gmail address.

01-26-2017 , 03:50 PM

#1616

th14

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01-26-2017 , 03:51 PM

#1617

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

BBC, the Guardian, The Independent.

Be very wary of the other major UK news outlets eg Mail Online - most have an agenda set by their owner.

The Guardian and The Independent clearly show a left-wing or center-left bias though they do feature a token conservative writer or two to placate those who accuse them of bias.

The BBC has had controversies started from both sides of the spectrum that they basically even themselves out imo.

01-26-2017 , 03:52 PM

#1618

Rhino65

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?

Politico?

01-26-2017 , 03:54 PM

#1619

ASAP17

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

They've updated it to whitehouse.gov addresses but it was a Gmail address.

It's been confirmed by plenty of sources, the official account was linked to Gmail. Lmao, great security decision by whoever took over when Trump was being sworn in.

01-26-2017 , 03:54 PM

#1620

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?

Here's a solid layout:

01-26-2017 , 03:58 PM

#1621

jalfrezi

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I doubt you'll find a privately-owned media outlet without a bias towards the left or right. If you're aware of that, it can be taken into account. Also, the terms left and right mean very different things in the UK compared to the US.

The BBC tends to drift slightly towards the politics of the government of the day, but does have impartiality written into its charter.

01-26-2017 , 04:02 PM

#1622

daca

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someone should get andrew exum on tv to say this stuff: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...litary/514514/

it's important. talking about taking iraqi oil, in dumb enough terms that everyone can understand it, is probably in the top 5 of worst things trump has done this week. it's risking iraqi peace and american lives.

01-26-2017 , 04:05 PM

#1623

daca

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The fear many have is that once the Islamic State is defeated in Iraq, the Iranian-backed militias in Iraq will be tempted to turn their attention toward the U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq.

One area in which the Iranians, in particular, have consistently bettered the United States in Iraq has been in messaging. The Iranians have been very savvy in using investments in Iraqi media to sow doubt about the true intentions of the United States. That’s why a year ago, at a time in which the United States had just helped Iraqi forces recapture Ramadi, 40 percent of Iraqis nonetheless believed the United States was “working to destabilize Iraq and control its natural resources.”

“Pshaw!” we would tell the Iraqis at the time. “That’s typical Middle East conspiracy-mongering!”

Well, the joke was on us, because our elected head of state apparently believes what the Iraqis feared we believed.

01-26-2017 , 04:10 PM

#1624

Parlay Slow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

I'd reckon he wants a tall enough wall that a ladder is pointless.

How tall is that?

01-26-2017 , 04:13 PM

#1625

goofyballer

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NYT: Trump’s Chief Strategist Says News Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’

Quote:

Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s chief White House strategist, laced into the American press during an interview on Wednesday evening, arguing that news organizations had been “humiliated” by an election outcome few anticipated, and repeatedly describing the media as “the opposition party” of the current administration.

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,” Mr. Bannon said during a telephone call.

“I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”

Quote:

Asked if he was concerned that Mr. Spicer had lost credibility with the press, Mr. Bannon chortled. “Are you kidding me?” he said. “We think that’s a badge of honor. ‘Questioning his integrity’ — are you kidding me? The media has zero integrity, zero intelligence, and no hard work.”

“You’re the opposition party,” Mr. Bannon said. “Not the Democratic Party. You’re the opposition party. The media’s the opposition party.”

While Mr. Bannon mostly referred to the “elite” or “mainstream” media, he cited The New York Times and The Washington Post by name.

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