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08-23-2018 , 08:41 PM
That material doesn't exist anymore. Probably all burned up by now.
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08-23-2018 , 08:46 PM
Cornell West on Anderson Cooper right now roasting TRUMP re: south african white farmers etc
08-23-2018 , 09:08 PM
First rule of being a sleazy middleman is you always keep incriminating **** somewhere safe just in case. Too bad Cohen never learned that.
08-23-2018 , 09:11 PM
does anyone have a langer folder from before this circus really kicked off

i want stuff like 'yes he played to the crowd during the campaign in order to get elected, but that was just 5d thinking. once he takes command i'm sure he will pivot to a more professional and dignified approach'
08-23-2018 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
First rule of being a sleazy middleman is you always keep incriminating **** somewhere safe just in case. Too bad Cohen never learned that.
Except for the part where Cohen was secretly recording Trump and kept the incriminating recording.
08-23-2018 , 09:21 PM
Cuomo and Kellyanne with a pretty loltastic interview right now on CNN. I give him credit for not letting her spew her bull****.

She's repeatedly accused him of sexism for not letting her talk enough.
08-23-2018 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
Cuomo and Kellyanne with a pretty loltastic interview right now on CNN. I give him credit for not letting her spew her bull****.

She's repeatedly accused him of sexism for not letting her talk enough.
Yup, he won't let her off the hook on the lying, and it's getting ugly. She's getting what she wants out of it, though, unfortunately. Plenty of tape to claim the big bad liberal media won't let strong conservative women speak.
08-23-2018 , 09:29 PM
https://twitter.com/TrumpsAlert/stat...89603290210305

08-23-2018 , 09:31 PM
Cuomo is going in on Kellyanne about the way any one of us would. It's epic. Conway is good at what she does. She's a soulless ghoul, but she's good at what she does. So is he, though.

She's jabbed her finger at his chest a couple times, and verbally he just won't let her off the hook. She's tried to take an authority figure posture by calling him "Christopher," and being condescending, but he won't back down.

Props to the producers, too, I highly doubt this was scheduled to be this long of an interview - they haven't had a break in a while.
08-23-2018 , 09:33 PM
meanwhile rachel is on her third topic because she doesn't bring on morons to waste half the show disputing objective reality
08-23-2018 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
meanwhile rachel is on her third topic because she doesn't bring on morons to waste half the show disputing objective reality
Fair point. I like the show he does, though. He gets a lot of good interviews (I'm not really counting Conway as one of them) and he never goes easy on them.
08-23-2018 , 09:36 PM
https://twitter.com/TrumpsAlert/stat...02189616402432

Hush Money? more like Shush (about my dad's) Money (because it's his money and he should be able to spend it paying to silence sex workers if he wants, in private)
08-23-2018 , 09:39 PM
Now sounds like a good time for an x-post of that vox video on why CNN is pure poison

Jeff Zucker is profoundly underrated in the rankings of people who have and are continuing to destroy America
08-23-2018 , 09:46 PM
Manhattan D.A. Eyes Criminal Charges Against Trump Organization
The Manhattan district attorney’s office is considering pursuing criminal charges against the Trump Organization and two senior company officials in connection with Michael D. Cohen’s hush money payment to an adult film actress, according to two officials with knowledge of the matter.

A state investigation would center on how the company accounted for its reimbursement to Mr. Cohen for the $130,000 he paid to the actress, Stephanie Clifford, who has said she had an affair with President Trump, the officials said.

Both officials stressed that the office’s review of the matter is in its earliest stages and prosecutors have not yet made a decision on whether to proceed.

State charges against the company or its executives could be significant because Mr. Trump has talked about pardoning some of his current or former aides who have faced federal charges. As president, he has no power to pardon people and corporate entities convicted of state crimes.

The Trump Organization recorded the reimbursement as a legal expense. But Mr. Cohen, Mr. Trump’s longtime fixer, said on Tuesday that he paid Ms. Clifford, better known as Stormy Daniels, to buy her silence during the 2016 campaign. Federal prosecutors have said the reimbursement payments were for sham legal invoices in connection with a nonexistent retainer agreement. Mr. Cohen, who pleaded guilty to federal campaign finance charges, did no legal work in connection with the matter, prosecutors said.

“On its face, it certainly would be problematic,” said one of the officials familiar with the district attorney’s office review, noting that listing the reimbursement as a legal expense could be a felony under state law
08-23-2018 , 09:46 PM
Breaking news from the NYT... My pony came in second in today's Breaking News Derby.

Sending up the bat signal to our resident lawyers who we appreciate so much these days - what happens if an organization is hit with criminal charges? They have to end up falling on individuals, right?
08-23-2018 , 09:48 PM
Figured out what the Fox and eventual White House strategy is going to be: Democrats, like [checks notes] Robert Mueller, are wasting too much time going after victimless white-collar “criminals” while Republicans are going after the REAL criminals, namely illegal immigrants who are coming over the border to kill our white women but also brown people in general. Anyone who points out the racial disparities in these policies will immediately be deemed the real racists.
08-23-2018 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Now sounds like a good time for an x-post of that vox video on why CNN is pure poison

Jeff Zucker is profoundly underrated in the rankings of people who have and are continuing to destroy America
I agree in theory, I don't think Cuomo v. Conway is an example of it. Yeah, there was yelling and it'll be good for ratings, but it was also good journalism.
08-23-2018 , 09:55 PM
Ooohh state charges... The kryptonite to trumps pardon powers.
08-23-2018 , 09:59 PM
https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1032779575300947971
08-23-2018 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
I agree in theory, I don't think Cuomo v. Conway is an example of it. Yeah, there was yelling and it'll be good for ratings, but it was also good journalism.
Fox News, CNN Hired Ex-Trump Aides Bound by NDAs. That’s ‘Journalistic Malpractice,’ Experts Say.

i don't see how having kellyanne is better journalistically, she was hired and is currently being paid by the white house to hype them up and even though she doesn't need it she's probably also legally barred from disparaging trump. she's not breaking exclusive news from the white house. she's on so the audience can hear trumpworld's spin on the topics of the day, nothing more. bring on a reporter, somebody who is objectively following whatever topic you want, there's no need to legitimize kellyanne conartist as a political analyst worthy of half an hour of prime time tv
08-23-2018 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Breaking news from the NYT... My pony came in second in today's Breaking News Derby.

Sending up the bat signal to our resident lawyers who we appreciate so much these days - what happens if an organization is hit with criminal charges? They have to end up falling on individuals, right?
Yes, would fall to relevant Directors/Officers of Trump Organization.

Fiduciary crimes would fall to people with fiduciary responsibility, etc.
08-23-2018 , 10:13 PM
What is "others" in that graphic?
08-23-2018 , 10:14 PM
Cuomo did a horrible job at keeping the discussions focused with Kellyanne Conway. imo.She kept shifting to talking points and Cuomo didn't bring her back.
08-23-2018 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
Fox News, CNN Hired Ex-Trump Aides Bound by NDAs. That’s ‘Journalistic Malpractice,’ Experts Say.

i don't see how having kellyanne is better journalistically, she was hired and is currently being paid by the white house to hype them up and even though she doesn't need it she's probably also legally barred from disparaging trump. she's not breaking exclusive news from the white house. she's on so the audience can hear trumpworld's spin on the topics of the day, nothing more. bring on a reporter, somebody who is objectively following whatever topic you want, there's no need to legitimize kellyanne conartist as a political analyst worthy of half an hour of prime time tv
I'm totally opposed to hiring the Ex-Trump aides and such if they won't be honest or informative to the public. It's worth noting they have some ex-Clinton aides and ex-Obama aides on and they manage to be valuable contributors.

Kellyanne Conway doesn't fall into that category. Like it or not, she's a senior-level adviser to the President of the United States. She's a newsmaker, a subject of the news. A big part of her job is spin, of course, but she still warrants having on... if and only if you go to the mattresses when she's full of ****. He did that, so I'm fine with it.

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Originally Posted by whosnext
Yes, would fall to relevant Directors/Officers of Trump Organization.

Fiduciary crimes would fall to people with fiduciary responsibility, etc.
So does any of this fall on Trump as the owner and executive director? It almost has to, right?
08-23-2018 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
Cuomo did a horrible job at keeping the discussions focused with Kellyanne Conway. imo.She kept shifting to talking points and Cuomo didn't bring her back.
I disagree. She's very good at what she does, and when she started spewing unrelated BS he did a decent job of fact-checking and then trying to bring it back. It could have been better, and in particular there were two or three moments I thought he whiffed on, but in the heat of the moment I think he did really well.

The first moment I thought he whiffed was when she said that only Trump knows what Trump believes about what he knew. He cited Cohen and Pecker, but should have cited Trump on the tape and refused to get off that point. If she countered the same, then it should go...

CC: So you're saying right now that the President does not believe that he knew about the payments before they happened.

A)
KC: Any form of yes

CC: Well, it's on tape, so you're arguing that the President of the United States cannot even remember an important conversation that happened about two years ago in which he directed his attorney to commit a felony? Does he have a health issue with his memory?

B)
KC: Any form of no.
CC: So you admit he's lying.

If you watch the tape, Kellyanne realized she ****ed up and opened that door. She changed her posture, leaning way back in her chair, and she flipped it around and started asking Cuomo if he thought Trump should be impeached. She knew he would respond to that, and she wiggled her way out of the corner she was stuck in.

Another was when she kept asking if Trump had been charged. He needed to hit back that DOJ thinks that's impossible, so it's a ridiculous bar to set. He did a little, but not enough.

As this continued, he missed maybe his biggest opportunity. He brought up Trump being named as a co-conspirator and she said that he was not named as a co-conspirator.

Cuomo: "Who was the federal person running for office, was it somebody else?"

Conway: (with a big **** eating grin because she knows she's in trouble here) "Listen to me."

Cuomo: "Was it somebody else?"

She then dodged, and he let her off the hook. He should have hammered that point over and over until she answered or was utterly embarrassed.
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