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05-15-2018 , 11:57 AM

#99376

well named

poorly undertitled

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

there is very little in this world more Republican than not caring about issues that don't affect you personally.

I think this is why concepts like "white privilege" are useful. I'd guess people like maulaga are not consciously motivated by racial resentment all the time, or even necessarily very often, but "it doesn't affect me personally" fills in the gaps really nicely on things like not giving a **** about Trump's immigrant policy. I guess you can expand it to the consideration that "it couldn't possibly affect me personally because I'm [white|a citizen|a man|...]" even if the latter form remains implicit.

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05-15-2018 , 12:01 PM

#99377

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

This can not be legal. Not the quid pro quo part, just the loan part. That alone should be illegal for Trump to be party to in any way.

Are you new here?

05-15-2018 , 12:04 PM

#99378

maulaga58

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even simpler Ill bet by the time orrin hatch retires. Ill be able to place a bet on the NFL the following day in New Jersey legally. same 2 to 1 odds

05-15-2018 , 12:06 PM

#99379

Chippa58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

They can probably ban it federally with carve outs for places that had it in 1972 or whatever year it was - Vegas and Delaware (NFL parlays only). This would certainly be what Sheldon Adelson wants, so I assume that's what they'll try to do.

I thought they had a ban with carve-outs and it was just ruled unconstitutional.

05-15-2018 , 12:06 PM

#99380

cuserounder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maulaga58

even simpler Ill bet by the time orrin hatch retires. Ill be able to place a bet on the NFL the following day in New Jersey. same 2 to 1 odds

You're going to have a hard time finding a bet here for three reasons:

1. $40 is not very much money.

2. Most here don't trust you.

3. Nobody is going to waste their time on a $60 escrow.

But since your goal is to convince yourself that the pussy liberals are scared to bet you because you're right, congrats. Well played, amigo!

05-15-2018 , 12:09 PM

#99381

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Amazing that chuds itt are trying to retcon Donald Trump and the Republican party into the champions of online gambling. Remind me: who is Donald Trump's biggest donor and one of his closest confidants? Who just gave 30 million to House Republicans after meeting with Paul Ryan? Oh right, it's Sheldon Adelson, online gambling's most powerful opponent.

I forget, did we ever get Mason to say Adelson's name?

05-15-2018 , 12:09 PM

#99382

SenorKeeed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

I'm sure that's what Adelson wants but wouldn't it be open to similar legal challenges?

05-15-2018 , 12:12 PM

#99383

TheHip41

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Well done everyone not replying to Keed. I’ve seen at least 10 spoil covered posts this morning with no response. Hope he likes his own thread.

05-15-2018 , 12:15 PM

#99384

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

Nice try. It's going to address the online side of it and block it from being nationwide, but it's obviously not going to do anything to Las Vegas. Gotta keep those sweet, sweet Sheldon Adelson checks pouring in. $30M is nothing to sneeze at!

To be fair Adelson immediately was able to get 500 million dollars in tax savings on the books due to Tax Cuts, so he has plenty more to give than his piddling 6% kickback.

05-15-2018 , 12:24 PM

#99385

suzzer99

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In before Trump discloses nothing and nothing else happens.

05-15-2018 , 12:26 PM

#99386

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I forget, did we ever get Mason to say Adelson's name?

Careful, he might misread your post and ban you.

05-15-2018 , 12:26 PM

#99387

ScreaminAsian

For President

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I forget, did we ever get Mason to say Adelson's name?

he accidentally tweeted it once and then banned a forum member for pointing it out

05-15-2018 , 12:58 PM

#99388

PoppaTMan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

In before Trump discloses nothing and nothing else happens.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pension-agency

Quote:

President Donald Trump nominated Gordon Hartogensis, a self-described entrepreneur who is Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao’s brother-in-law, to lead the federal agency that pays worker pensions when employers terminate their retirement plans.

05-15-2018 , 01:03 PM

#99389

markksman

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05-15-2018 , 01:18 PM

#99390

RunyonAve

More Like RunyonBlvd

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Soooooooooooooo

Oh yea, nothing matters anymore.

05-15-2018 , 01:25 PM

#99391

Huehuecoyotl

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Not sure why you guys think this stuff is related. Trump, Inc is a wholly private company that Trump the President has nothing to do with. It's just a coincidence that those two things happened around the same time.

05-15-2018 , 02:00 PM

#99392

dinopoker

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And the money the casinos take in goes where exactly? Into outer space?

05-15-2018 , 02:04 PM

#99393

ligastar

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look at the sly grin on Netanyahu's face. he's thinking "i played that orange bufoon like a fiddle...".

05-15-2018 , 02:06 PM

#99394

suzzer99

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05-15-2018 , 02:08 PM

#99395

microbet

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Just like casinos have drained the economies of Native American communities.

05-15-2018 , 02:10 PM

#99396

Namath12

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We need a gambling thread in this forum methinks

05-15-2018 , 02:27 PM

#99397

JoeC2012

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

We need a gambling thread in this forum methinks

Second. This is a really interesting topic. Could lead to a massive derail in this thread though.

05-15-2018 , 02:33 PM

#99398

aoFrantic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuffle

Supremes may be right on this one by passing the ball, but Congress needs to take action and start to reign in the proliferation of gambling across the country. It's one thing to have a tourist resort where a bunch of people with disposable incomes travel and party and have a good time, and another thing when common people in middle America want to make bets with each other, but it's something else entirely when the state (lotteries) and corporations and casinos come into small mostly poor areas and drain the economy dry.

Do you think this has happened in the UK, Canada or other places in Europe where this stuff has been legal for decades? Do you bother to research this stuff at all?

05-15-2018 , 02:38 PM

#99399

simplicitus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuffle

IMO gambling is a scourge and a tax on the poor. It's a terrible industry and it should be shut down and (in an ideal world) casino moguls (Adelson, Wynn, Trump) should be imprisoned or at least cast out of society. I would make an exception for (regulated) poker (game of skill; hard to lose a ton unless you try really, really hard), but as far as I'm concerned those profiting off gambling should be hanged by their feet in the public square.

05-15-2018 , 02:44 PM

#99400

Yuv

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Do you think this has happened in the UK, Canada or other places in Europe where this stuff has been legal for decades? Do you bother to research this stuff at all?

I'm hardly an expert and haven't researched enough, but I do remember reading that Singapore has a pretty terrible gambling problem since it became legal.

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