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04-17-2018 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
On top of that, they rarely give a straight answer. Yes, I get it, litigation is inherently uncertain. Give me your educated ****ing opinion! For $700 an hour, you can do better than "who knows, litigation is uncertain, we will try."
jfc, this +1,000. That is the most god damn annoying thing in the world. To the 17,493 layers ITT, I'm sure you're all wonderful people and all when you're at home with your cats or whatever, but if you do this you completely deserve every single horrible thing people say about lawyers. That is BY FAR the weasliest, douchiest, most dickbag thing in the world you can say to the people who pay you for your alleged expertise.
04-17-2018 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Can’t tell if grinding live poker for a living sounds great or terrible. Ten years ago I would have said amazing but now being in the casino so much sounds gross.
can't speak for anyone else but I love it. doing my favorite thing and with the kind of freedom that has me traveling/vacationing every few months. was actually living in Colombia for a minute last year until the govt bastards banned Pstars and Bodog. Colombian women are unreal

Last edited by Lilu7; 04-17-2018 at 10:28 PM.
04-17-2018 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
29 poker player, make decent money but know I should get a real career soon. Got my associates, but stopped going when I started making good money in live poker. Still no idea what I'd wanna do though.
Live or online? If online do you study a ton of GTO?
04-17-2018 , 10:27 PM
McConnell over Trump isn't even that hard. Ole Mitch should be the first head on a stake.
04-17-2018 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
jfc, this +1,000. That is the most god damn annoying thing in the world. To the 17,493 layers ITT, I'm sure you're all wonderful people and all when you're at home with your cats or whatever, but if you do this you completely deserve every single horrible thing people say about lawyers. That is BY FAR the weasliest, douchiest, most dickbag thing in the world you can say to the people who pay you for your alleged expertise.
I have a boss who takes the approach you advocate, including with my clients, and including on issues that were far from certain. I have had a several extremely angry clients as a result.

To use a poker analogy, if a client comes up to me with AA, they want to be told that they're going to win the hand. I can't tell them that, so I explain all of the possible ways that the hand can play out. This is seen as weasely. I go home and drink.
04-17-2018 , 10:30 PM
Mom, dad and sister are all lawyers. I, uhh, shoot birds at the airport.

30 next week.
04-17-2018 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
I have a boss who takes the approach you advocate, including with my clients, and including on issues that were far from certain. I have had a several extremely angry clients as a result.

To use a poker analogy, if a client comes up to me with AA, they want to be told that they're going to win the hand. I can't tell them that, so I explain all of the possible ways that the hand can play out. This is seen as weasely. I go home and drink.
I think if you gave various scenarios and approximate probabilities of each, like you could with AA, most people (itt) would be satisfied. The problem is when you get an answer that makes it seems like literally anything is possible and all outcomes are equally likely.
04-17-2018 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
I think if you gave various scenarios and approximate probabilities of each, like you could with AA, most people (itt) would be satisfied. The problem is when you get an answer that makes it seems like literally anything is possible and all outcomes are equally likely.
Is there a market for insurance? If you have a plaintiff who you think has an expectation of winning $10k, can you give them $8k to assign the whole judgement to you? Can a third party do that?
04-17-2018 , 10:41 PM
Of course not. They'll happily take 1/3 plus a load of bull**** expenses on the free roll, though.

There is a market for litigation finance, and it seems super shady from what little I know.
04-17-2018 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Live or online? If online do you study a ton of GTO?
Live. Don't really do anything study wise besides review interesting hands. Though I occasionally study GTO just because I find it interesting.

http://www.businessinsider.com/israe...-failed-2018-4

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"If President Trump had ordered the strike only to show that the US responded to [Syrian President Bashar] Assad's use of chemical weapons, then that goal has been achieved," a senior defense official told Israel's Ynet News. "But if there was another objective — such as paralyzing the ability to launch chemical weapons or deterring Assad from using it again — it's doubtful any of these objectives have been met."
Israel hustling ****** Trump into more, and bigger air strikes?
04-17-2018 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
I think if you gave various scenarios and approximate probabilities of each, like you could with AA, most people (itt) would be satisfied.
"Most people" and "most people ITT" are WAY different animals.
04-17-2018 , 10:53 PM
Cheesiest lawyeriest thing I've ever heard:

My friend was on public assistance (welfare, food stamps, section 8) due to a massive eye infection, which was most likely caused by bacteria living in her contact lens solution. The hospital actually figured out the two types of bacteria living in her eye by testing her bottle of solution. She also had massive student loan debt which was in default.

I talked to a family friend who is a product liability lawyer. I wondered if she got a big settlement, would the student loan collectors want their piece of the pie and try to intercept the payout before it gets to the client? He said he's gotten letters like that. He sends them back a letter asking them to indemnify him if his client sues him for malpractice for not him fighting harder to retain 100% of the client's settlement. Otherwise he says he might have to sue them if he gets sued. Apparently the student loan company usually stops bugging him at that point.

Other layweriest thing - she actually got an interview with the company who sued the woman who got burned by McDonalds coffee. She pointed out that the bacteria was found living in the contact lens solution. And we even found a study that found only one brand of contact lens solution (Opti-Free Enhanced) showed significant resistance against hardcore strains of bacteria - the ones that cause serious infections - despite the brands claiming to be anti-bacterial. They were testing against weaker strains.

The response? Eye cases are really hard with juries - pass.

Last edited by suzzer99; 04-17-2018 at 11:04 PM.
04-17-2018 , 10:53 PM
I'll play.

42. Used to be an IT consultant, then "strategic" consultant, but have been a writer for 13 years (for the first couple also served as a customer service manager of sorts for a poker affiliate).

If I had to do it all over again, I'd lift weights in high school and play in off-season baseball leagues to try to give myself a better chance at playing in college/minors (as tiny as that chance may have still been).
04-17-2018 , 10:54 PM
Also, Stormy's thug is clearly Dexter, which means she is very lucky to still be with us.
04-17-2018 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rugby
I'm not. Davao is a smaller city in the south. Has some call centre stuff, bit most is in Manola or the second city, Cebu.

Davao, as it happens, is where Duterte is from. Ran the whole city as some local gangster for 30 years before becoming president. Something he did with the help of Cambridge Analytica.
Amazing really that a bunch of ghouls are running around helping install dictators in as many countries as possible and it's allowed
04-17-2018 , 10:57 PM
Yeah dude she had so much dignity up until now.

04-17-2018 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Here's another one for the politard attorneys. What's the deal with the Gorsuch vote on the deportation case? Was this some how foreseeable based on his history? I read some article about how it was the kind of decision Scalia would make (and apparently they have a lot of similarities). Is he just balancing his range? Did he have a stroke?

Also, I'd almost use my one time just to see Trump's reaction when he found out.
I havent read a ton about it yet, but i would say that its a strict constitution reading decision which would be in his range.

the case was basically government trying to deport felon using a catchall you can deport people with convictions for "violent crimes". the crimes in the case were 2 no contest pleas to burglaries that had zero violence, but burglary 1 is normally in "violent crime" definitions because burg 1 generally means the buildings are "dwelling places" and people are there.

gorsuch sided with the void for vagueness crowd and said something to the effect that no one should be surprised that the constitution demands more of a government that is set to take away someone's life, liberty, or property.
04-17-2018 , 11:06 PM
49 - computer programmer - currently taking a gap year to drive the Pan-Am highway. I assume most here know that.
04-17-2018 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Is there a market for insurance? If you have a plaintiff who you think has an expectation of winning $10k, can you give them $8k to assign the whole judgement to you? Can a third party do that?
I have definitely heard of third parties doing this.

PS - I'm 45.
04-17-2018 , 11:10 PM
What's up with all the typos in press releases from the Trump Administration? I think things are so chaotic that simple mistakes are not being caught. Like, if Barbara Bush died while Obama was in office, you know 5-10 people probably would have read that press release before it was actually released. But with Trump? An intern is probably given 5 min to write something up and it goes out immediately.
04-17-2018 , 11:14 PM
31 years old and a peak top HSNL player that never played mega high stakes again after his account went through liquidation. My father was a lawyer, but I hated his job because he was always late to pick me up for hockey so I vowed to do something else. Did the CFA and am now in entry levelish banking middle office call centre stuff
04-17-2018 , 11:18 PM
Alright, I'll play.

44 years old. I lead the security design group of an architecture firm. Dealt poker for 20ish years with stints in video production. Got an AA in computer networking when I was 41 and got hired by the architecture firm to do their IT and they transitioned me in to this role.

Every day I'm reminded how much I don't know. The people in my firm are super bright and I've traditionally been used to being one of the smarter guys in the room. Now I just feel like a schmuck, but I keep winning projects so the clients must think I'm competent.
04-17-2018 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
What's up with all the typos in press releases from the Trump Administration? I think things are so chaotic that simple mistakes are not being caught. Like, if Barbara Bush died while Obama was in office, you know 5-10 people probably would have read that press release before it was actually released. But with Trump? An intern is probably given 5 min to write something up and it goes out immediately.
Don't forget it's a subsample selected for extreme stupidity. One would expect far higher than average error rates.
04-17-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
"Most people" and "most people ITT" are WAY different animals.
You can get most people - even the really dumb ones - to understand relative probabilities without a lot of effort. Lawyers don't opt for the useless, weasily, non-commital answer because they can't explain the situation, they do it because they don't want to ever be wrong, and because they don't want to talk a client out of paying them more fees for a lost cause case.
04-17-2018 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Can’t tell if grinding live poker for a living sounds great or terrible. Ten years ago I would have said amazing but now being in the casino so much sounds gross.
Even back when I really enjoyed playing I always had real jobs, and I couldn't even imagine then ever wanting to play for a living.

      
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