I don't think "I'm one of you" is at all what Obama or Bill pulled off. What they did was "I'm with you" as in I care about you and your problems. Hillary did "I'm with her." Biggest face palm ever.

Oh, this is definitely true. I think shallow characteristics are extremely important. Likability is almost certainly more important than policy, any policy. Looks, height for a man, the sound of their voice, all these things are worth a lot of votes. I mean, I'll vote for a short, fat, ugly person and I think I won't even hold it against them, but they'll really have a lot to overcome to win.

Maybe this is just a coincidence, but every Republican and no Democratic POTUS in the last 66 years was really nationally known much before being elected.

The country is full of ******s. Progress won't be made by depending on the country to figure it out. It needs to be rammed down their throat the way the right rams down their bs agenda.

Had the chance with Bernie and blew it. Still might have one more chance.

Edit: also had a chance at start of Obama's presidency and blew it then too

Sounds like appeal to emotion for Republican voters if I were forced to explain it away.

Bernie quoting CardiB is amazing. Me knowing who CardiB is almost as amazing.

Yeah I was literally left mouth agape when I saw it.

Also they really missed the mark by not mentioning his real accomplishment of kicking out some brown people.

Lol. You’re stupid

On a somewhat related note I’ve always been curious if the SOROS ilk can name one thing about soros besides his first name, that he’s a billionaire, and something something democrats

Also did you know George Soros isn’t actually his birth name?!?! Think about it mannnnn

The line under Bernie's name says "Tweets by staff." It says something about the workplace not being an oppressive ****hole where every little thing has to be focused grouped, run through legal and comes out completely safe and bland, but Bernie, like me, had probably never heard of CardiB.

Hard to pick a favorite, but don't sleep on "Moving US Embassy to Jerusalem". I mean, "Rising Approval Ratings" is not an accomplishment, but it is good news for Trump, arguably. The embassy thing is just... what the ****.

Obviously not. I can't and I'm like 1000x more informed than they are. I remember reading once how he made his money, but I've forgotten. Something fairly prosaic I think? (Just looked it up: hedge funds. OK.)

When I looked up Soros a while back I was surprised that he was actually more politically active and influential than I really could have guessed. Although he does spend a lot on campaigns, that's not a big part if it. He put $18 billion of his money into a political foundation at one point and billions more in smaller contributions.

Not that one guy having that much influence is necessarily great, but it's not like the Koch money. The Koch's expect their political contributions to be profitable for them personally during their lifetimes.

I agree with your blueprint, except for this. Dems shouldn't be avoiding areas where their policy is more complicated than their opponents - that's almost every issue. They need to boil all their policies down to 3-4 simple sentences that everyone can understand.

Yes. Unless that path involves somehow proving all of the allegations false, which seems virtually impossible, you're nuts. Especially as it pertains to the 2020 POTUS race.

That seems an awful lot like 2016. Hillary is center-left, and her campaign strategically avoided the issues. ****, maybe we should just run a Republican? Is Kasich center-left enough for you, Clovis?

No, no, no. Now is the time to inspire people to go vote for someone who can make positive changes. This isn't about winning over intelligent moderates, it's about turning out voters who don't always vote. You don't do that with milquetoast center-left competence.

This was a huge part of it, but she also ran a ****ty campaign. This would have been why she lost to anyone else... Trump she still should have beaten.

Great, great point.

You should really read up on what Tulsi believes.

She would be the worst pick of everyone mentioned in this thread thus far.

As far as his base is concerned, that is an accomplishment. They think the embassy being in Tel Aviv was Obama-era appeasement of Muslims, who they hate, for no good reason, because OBVIOUSLY Jerusalem is the capital. This reverses Obama's position, sticks it to brown people, and really nothing else matters.

Never mind that it wasn't like it was Obama's idea to put it in Tel Aviv, and ignore any of the actual facts or nuance. For the average Trump supporter, this was a "Hell yeah, he tells it like it is!" accomplishment.

Hello there teaser.

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...122564609?s=19

Hey Suzzer,

While you're trapped in Nicaragua behind protests we need more updates when you have the chance to post!

I posted in the travel forum thread. Here's my FB post from the Pan-American Traveler Forum, I added some stuff.

The problem is Republicans know how to create a forgery of the same quality. Then all the undecided voters look at both statements having no idea which is genuinely backed by substance and which is a crock of ****. The catch 22, as you pointed out, is any longer and it loses the attention of your average person. I honestly don't know how to overcome this, short of having some sort of Snopes label on every political statement in real time.

I'm sorry but no matter how anyone twists it, Republicans are just better at cheating. Otherwise America would have a Democratic POTUS for 16 years to every 8 years a Republican served.

Suzzer,

I saw that yesterday and the travel forum is obv better than this thread. I guess if you're posting about Trump that's enough of an indication that nothing too dramatic happened to you.

Nope just waiting for my afternoon flight to Managua.

Elections are mostly about principles and aspirations put into pithy statements. The well thought out policies are required a) for the, still important, relatively few who want more substance and b) so that they can actually achieve something if they get elected.

That's where authenticity comes in. Sure people can be fooled, but they mostly aren't. The lawyers in this forum can "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is" and "show me the actual statute" and "but that's not a crime" and "where's the quid pro quo" forever, but just don't put someone up who is full of **** to the core just because they are smart enough to argue that they aren't. People trust the bald faced lying carnival barker more than that.

Chiefsplanet has decided they've really hated McCain all along, as do all veterans. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=315321