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05-10-2018 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
What would have happened had Sessions not recused himself? Why was it not his choice?
Mueller could have put a bullseye on his back too. After all, we still don't know what he was hiding about those 3 meetings that he perjured himself to Congress over, and was still in the process of cleaning up at the time of his recusal. Comey also testified in a hearing that the FBI was aware he'd need to recuse weeks before he actually did. AFAIK, the reasons behind Comey's foreknowledge are still not revealed and possibly classified. My first guess would be illicit activities at the Mayflower meeting more than the other two, since that's the one Sessions held on to most tightly.
05-10-2018 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I didn't say or imply that microbet said thought that.
Who did, then?
05-10-2018 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Mueller could have put a bullseye on his back too.
But Sessions' recusal pre-dates Mueller's appointment by 2 months. With no Sessions recusal, is Mueller even a thing?
05-10-2018 , 09:36 PM
I approvingly posted Greenwald's contemptuous tweets making fun of people expressing phony outrage over payments to Cohen, people argued with me about it, I defended that view

and if you read further you might see who is being referenced

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Greenwald's viewpoints here are consistent though. He's saying that the Clintons soliciting tens of millions of dollars from a corrupt dictatorship is highly problematic, and the Democratic elite generally ignore, condone, or participate in this behavior. So it is the height of hypocrisy for that same DC elite to collectively need to retire to their fainting couches when someone in Trump's circle engages in similar behavior.

Last edited by SenorKeeed; 05-10-2018 at 09:42 PM.
05-10-2018 , 09:43 PM
lol, so you can't even correctly identify the actual reasons people had bones to pick with you? Great work, troll
05-10-2018 , 09:44 PM
the **** are you talking about?
05-10-2018 , 09:45 PM
I am ignoring exactly one user on 2+2, I suggest others do the same so I don't have to read their posts when they are quoted, nor have to hear people (I guess this includes me right now)whine about that poster.
05-10-2018 , 10:13 PM
The fact this **** happens with any frequency is even more reason to be outraged!
05-10-2018 , 10:15 PM
lol people still interact with keeed
05-10-2018 , 10:17 PM
Keed really going all in on the whataboutism now. I think that means he has batted for the cycle of awful posting. Impressive.
05-10-2018 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
I am ignoring exactly one user on 2+2, I suggest others do the same so I don't have to read their posts when they are quoted, nor have to hear people (I guess this includes me right now)whine about that poster.
+1

As a mod I am not supposed to put any member on Ignore, but in this case I feel it is justified as his posts are trolling/bad-faith posting which totally diminish/dilute/ruin this thread/forum.
05-10-2018 , 10:39 PM
as someone posted a long time ago, people can't stop themselves from the mental masturbation of dunking on him.
05-10-2018 , 10:43 PM
Keed is the Ikes we neither wanted nor deserve.
05-10-2018 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
let's not pretend that companies giving money to those close to the politically powerful is some red line that simply isn't crossed in American politics. It's widespread.
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Businesses giving money to politically connected people? SOMEONE FETCH MY SMELLING SALTS
In which you just strawman the **** out of everyone here.
05-10-2018 , 11:02 PM
right, right, hyperbole is bad

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Originally Posted by vaya
I think that's being too charitable. Greenwald and keed simply like the Nazis and what they stand for.
and again, the conversation I was having makes clear who I was talking about:

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Greenwald's viewpoints here are consistent though. He's saying that the Clintons soliciting tens of millions of dollars from a corrupt dictatorship is highly problematic, and the Democratic elite generally ignore, condone, or participate in this behavior. So it is the height of hypocrisy for that same DC elite to collectively need to retire to their fainting couches when someone in Trump's circle engages in similar behavior.
05-10-2018 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
the MEK are a cultish fringe exile group though. There's no way they could rule with the will of the people or even really help. The US is truly delusional if they think the MEK can help
Didn't Bush II rely heavily on a similarly situated exile group that hadn't lived in Iraq in decades to form his opinion that US Troops would be greeted as liberators in Baghdad?
05-10-2018 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
+1

As a mod I am not supposed to put any member on Ignore, but in this case I feel it is justified as his posts are trolling/bad-faith posting which totally diminish/dilute/ruin this thread/forum.
Umm, you're a mod. It seems you could fix it for all of us.
05-10-2018 , 11:15 PM
OK, should politicians be banned from making any money above their pensions, or from running charitable foundations, once they leave office?
05-10-2018 , 11:19 PM
they should not be banned from, uh, having a job
05-10-2018 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
they should not be banned from, uh, having a job
OK, then where is your line? Because their most marketable job skills are going to inevitably be in a gray area.
05-10-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
How is it not Traitor Trump?
Donnie Baby Hands
05-10-2018 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
OK, should politicians be banned from making any money above their pensions, or from running charitable foundations, once they leave office?
There are government jobs where you are prohibited from making money or working for the industry you regulated for a period. You say politicians. I don't see why an ex-mayor of Torrance, California couldn't work for some company that never had business in Torrance. POTUS having to live on just their generous pension for the rest of their life might be a bit of an affront to freedom, but it would be a good thing for the country.
05-10-2018 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
OK, then where is your line? Because their most marketable job skills are going to inevitably be in a gray area.
When one's most marketable skill somehow gets you paid a half a million dollars to make a speech for an investment bank, I think that is over my line. Same with soliciting tens of millions of dollars from a corrupt autocracy to fund your charity. Was Goldman really that enthralled with the Clintons to give them each huge speaking fees for a night's work? Were the Saudis really so enamored with the Clintons' charitable efforts that they gave 25 million dollars? Seems dubious.

Last edited by SenorKeeed; 05-10-2018 at 11:42 PM.
05-10-2018 , 11:44 PM
Make them work in homeless shelters, with disabled vets, community shelters etc.

Not remotely realistic but would probably change things for the better.
05-10-2018 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
When one's most marketable skill somehow gets you paid a half a million dollars to make a speech for an investment bank, I think that is over my line. Same with soliciting tens of millions of dollars from a corrupt autocracy to fund your charity. Was Goldman really that enthralled with the Clintons to give them each huge speaking fees for a night's work? Were the Saudis really so enamored with the Clintons' charitable efforts that they gave 25 million dollars? Seems dubious.
Did they buy malaria medication with it?
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Make them work in homeless shelters, with disabled vets, community shelters etc.

Not remotely realistic but would probably change things for the better.
Does funding malaria cures in the developing world count?

      
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