Lol the Conservative hot take is he didn't fire him so what's the big deal?

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So where does this lead now?

Mueller wants to interview Trump. Trump cannot give an interview... It only leads to: incriminating himself, lying to the fbi - incriminating himself that way, or pleading the fifth - perhaps the ONLY thing that could pierce the right wing bubble.

But we now know what lengths he's willing to go to... We all suspected it already.

So, he'll just refuse the interview, right? If Mueller subpoenas him, he'll still refuse. They'll claim some absurdly expansive executive privilege - they've already trial ballooned that strategy.

It'll end up before SCOTUS...

It's like Trump's only play at this point, right?

If Trump actually testifies in front of Mueller, there is a decent chance we'll see a "You can't handle the truth" situation and he gets hauled off in handcuffs

Please let it be live on TV.

The latest episode of the Slow Burn podcast (highly recommended!) feels a little relevant here: it describes the point at which Nixon was being forced to turn over his tapes, and all the absurd shenannigans his team came up with to avoid doing that, including the release of inaccurate transcripts made by a guy with hearing loss!

Point is, I expect Ty Cobb to basically throw the kitchen sink at this and throw every legal objection he can imagine at keeping Trump from speaking to Muller, even if that means making up fantastical new interpretations of executive privilege.

Zero chance they televise this.

wowzers

I mean, if he gets subpoena'd before a grand jury... he's testifying. Clinton v. Jones was unanimously decided against Clinton (and that includes current Justices Kennedy and Thomas), and that was a civil case. If a president can't dodge a civil deposition by claiming executive privilege he can't freaking dodge a grand jury subpoena. This isn't goin gto be some 5-4 close Supreme Court case. It'll be unanimous against him.

This is an interview, not a cross-examination. Trump will walk out of it thinking he did great. Then he'll get charged with lying to the FBI on top of everything else.

Sounds about right... It can buy him time, if nothing else.

I know.

I agree, but then what happens if Trump says, "Cool ruling, I'm still not going."

We then have a constitutional crisis, and it's pretty much up to the GOP in Congress, is it not?

I would expect him to try to slide into Mueller spikes up.

That’s back when rules mattered.

Republicans just gave billionaires and corporations a gigantic tax cut, ballooned the deficit by $1.5T *and* gutted Obamacare - w/o one Democrat vote. Please explain to me why the **** they need Democrat to compromise for freaking $25B for a wall?

Is anyone seeing the specific date in June for when Trump tried to fire Mueller?

The founders were geniuses so I'm assuming that there is a section of the constitution that allows the country to load previous save slots and replay this whole thing.

No, my guess is that the leakers didn't want that out there because they don't want the public to know what it was in reaction to... That would indicate a weak spot he's worried about.

I'm not denying white privilege has a lot to do with it. I am saying Trump is more shameless and better than other rich white scions at using his white privilege to enrich himself and stay out of jail at the expense of everyone around him.

"Mueller is biased against me because I tried to fire him. He should recuse himself."

That's not even a dirty move by Ty Cobb standards. Mother****er was one of the grimiest baseball players ever:

were they stable geniuses though? didnt think so

SAD!

Pretty sure it was Saturday June 17th. I remember because Red Robin was having a special on something burgers.

Sounds right.

The Mexican judge is biased against me because he knows I hate Mexicans. He should recuse himself.

It's a long shot, but Hannity somehow being involved in this criminally would make me so happy.

So, is it still unclear whether or not Mueller can bring charges against Trump? The consensus I seem to gather from talking heads is that it's debatable and so it's more likely Mueller would recommend impeachment instead. Is that right?

Also, are we expecting Mueller to release some kind of report at the end of this detailing what they found out? Or is he strictly limited to bringing criminal cases against individuals?

Would be grateful if any lawyers ITT wanted to shed some light on this.