One line absolves 6 years of near neglect?

LOL right-wingers, the gift that never stops giving

The failing relationship with China? Jesus.

Dude, the blame surely goes back to Clinton as well and Bush Sr. and Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Kennedy and Eisenhower if you want to pretend like you (and lol Trump) have some solution and it's all America's fault.

Shouldn't Bundy being worrying about the gays marrying and ruining his country anyways?

I just typed and deleted a 'defense' of bundy, saying he might not be as deplorable as he seems because he doesn't even seem to understand what this DACA business is all about. Like, these people might have a limit, a bottom, a floor, that will stop them if they were aware enough to realize what they were saying and doing.

But **** them and **** him.

I mean, are you watching this season of Big Brother?

You may say I'm a Dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll deport us
To aprender a hablar español

He was told and didn't care. He just went on how then the parents would get to stay or something for the sake of their children. How terrible.

But, wtf would an Australian care, even if he hates Mexicans? There will still be Mexicans in the world and in fact they'll be closer to Australia if they get deported. The Central Americans will get even closer! Even if we want completely open borders, like we had for European immigrants for a century, what is his objection?

The other way around I can see how an Australian would care. Like if they were just decent human beings who didn't want people to suffer regardless of their race or nationality, they would want the DACA kids and their parents to get to stay. But, even if they are terrible bastards I can't see why they would have any reaction worse than "well, as long as they don't come here I don't care."

muy bien

So you are happy to say that NK have posed the same threat level since Eisenhower's administration and it hasn't escalated or increased to any higher level since Kim Jong Un assumed power. Now if your answer to that is well it has (and I would argue it has increased significantly), what has the international community and especially the US done to abate it?

I think Trump actually agrees with that. Partly because he just said "We love our Dreamers". And I believe it was telling that he actually used the word "dreamers" since it would probably not be a word he would have chosen if he didn't agree with the program. What it seems he doesn't want is for the program to be under his executive order rather than a law from Congress; both for legitimate technical reasons and even more so for political ones.

You are scaring me David. It has been a recurring theme over the length of Trump's administration for his supporters to interpret his words and actions into something more palatable for the American public. This has been happening more and more frequently since Hurricane Harvey happened and it needs to stop. Trump is a grown man educated at the very best American Universities who has been elected President of the United States. He should be wholly capable of communicating his thoughts and intentions on his own without other's interpreting them for public consumption.

The president needs to be able to clearly communicate with the public on his own and if he cannot he should no longer be president.

They got nukes before Obama. The best case for you here is that you're just incredibly keen to blame Obama. The other alternative is that you're keen to invade NK and cause the deaths of tens of millions of people.

The international community did a bunch of sanctions. That's what we did for the last 60 years. You don't get to go back in time and try something else and you have no idea if an alternate would have worked out better.

And the threat was higher in the 50s and 60s when nuclear war with the Soviet Union was more likely.

We may have had a chance to help the Soviets get rid of Kim Il-Sung. Khrushchev tried to overthrow him during the de-Stalinization, but he held on. I don't think we did anything.

Maybe GWB could have done a better job with NK if he weren't busy ****ing up the ME when NK pulled out of the non-proliferation treaty.

Think this DACA thing will knock another 4 points off the Trump approval. It's self-evidently evil and affects a lot of people. Congress will be tied in knots for the next 2 months dealing with must-pass legislation, which it is likely to fumble. From there to comprehensive immigration reform, or even DACA reform? Not with these bozos in the GOP Congress and the head bozo making things even worse.

While the last 9 months may have seemed like a rolling disaster, I suspect Trump is just getting warmed up.

The only solace I take from this is that the Republicans have pushed nothing but terrible ideas and brain dead policy for the last 8 years (well, more like 28 years) and they finally have a president who is stupid enough to try to implement their agenda. They finally have to show their hand and will be making a beeline for the exit.

bundy has been posting hateful ignorance for years. He has no floor. The only reason he hasn't been perma'd or exiled yet is because he's low volume and sporadic. He deserves all the scorn you can muster when he does show up.

Surely its only the racists who still support trump. Why would this lose him their support?

Exactly. It might actually bump him 1 or 2.

Trump had about 30% support from Latinos in the election......

LOL@ those people

oh look, sklansky mustering up yet another convoluted attempt to defend and give the benefit of the doubt to donald trump- contrary to all his words/actions up to this point and despite him not deserving it in the least. who would have thought?

Are you defending Trump - regarding DACA?

Dude just said he's going to end the program. They are all heartless ****s. Going after parents and Dreamers. And people fleeing from floods

Got to get those criminals out

You've posted a lot of stupid **** when it comes to Trump. This might be your worst yet.

Oh he said the word dreamers? Obviously that means he agrees with the program and just wants Congress to be in on it. So instead of just telling Congress to pass something similar to DACA and THEN ending it, he will just put millions of people's lives at stake on the gambit that Congress can do anything productive in six months.

What a crock of ****