Seems that Steve Bannon is pulling the strings behind the scenes while Trump acts like a silly puppet with his diversions regarding crowd sizes and the popular vote. Wonder when he's going to overthrow Trump and seize official control.

I think the first minute of the video is even more outrageous. He is basically saying "We did find a way to ban Muslims, without having actually to write down that Muslims are banned."

I wish I knew how to make a gif of what I'm talking about. It's super obvious, it stands out to the point I'm amazed I haven't seen anyone else point it out.

I'm not saying I don't know how to make a gif but it'd take me way more effort than I wanna deal with right now.

The speed with which this is going on is astonishing.

Week 1 of Trump administration:

- The official stance of the USA on climate science is, that climate change is not happening and science is not a factor. De-funding of scientists.
- Muslims are banned from entering the USA.
- Plans to restructure the National Security Council to include white supremacist Steve Bannon.
- A trade war with Mexiko has been started.
- The GOP leadership aka. the government supports all the above.

1 WEEK!!!!

What will happen within 1 year?

oh yeah I clearly see what you meant about his posture and stuff, was just saying this doesnt surprise me one bit and I'm sure its relevant to how he feels.


Pence is just watching his dad rape his mother again

it only took hitler 5 months to consolidate total control after becoming chancellor. they work fast because they need to keep the focus off each new objective they are trying to accomplish. they use distractions. if you look at everything they've done so far from this perspective the clearer it becomes.

What you quoted from my post is, literally, 100% correct.

The fact that someone voted for Trump doesn't mean that they will stand behind everything that has happened if you asked them now. Of course most will, and if the "most" is actually virtually all then yes, hope almost goes out the window :-(

Re the graphic with the stats on US deaths from terrorists from these 7 countries - it's a great graphic but I think it would be better if:

the non 9-11 stats were shown separately (so you can see how low the numbers are when you exclude this event), and

there were some other numbers, just to give an idea of relative size. Eg the US gun-related deaths over the same period and perhaps road deaths.

I get that most Trump supporters won't give a damn and this isn't about "risk" for them, but it may make the odd person gain some perspective. I'm tied up with family stuff now otherwise I'd have a go and finding some data.

tehran and baghdad need trump towers pretty ****ing quickly. or this is all going to get out of hand.

This is like every dystopian movie script ever written. Tagline: "What would happen if the greatest superpower the world has ever known...suddenly turned evil?"

Certainly took a lot less time to ban AZmountainhiker the second time around. Maybe an IP ban is in order.

No doubt.

What the ****

It's kind of odd and I didn't want to say it but I've definitely felt like that.

I shouldn't find this funny but I do. Well played, Trumpkin

Missed stamping Trump all of it...

Can't find a direct comparison of statistics, but this table (compiled from the National Vital Statistics Reports of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) comes out as saying that in the period 1979 to 2010 (so 15 fewer years than in the graphic) the number of gun related deaths was ≈ 866,500.

This includes suicides.

• Number of deaths from ALL terrorist incidents (1979 to 2017) was 3380. Excluding 9/11 would make it 384. (wiki)
  
  
• Applying my own subjective filter 127 of these deaths could, however tenuously, be related to Islam in some fashion.
  
  
• Including 9/11, Islamic related terrorist incidents would be the equivalent of ≈ 0.4% of gun related deaths.
  
  
• Excluding 9/11 Islamic related terrorist incidents would be the equivalent of ≈ 0% of all gun related deaths. (0.01%)
  
  
• Another way of saying it might be that all possible Islamic terrorist incidents from the past 38 years would have accounted for fewer murders than occurred in the first 3 months of 2015 (including 9/11).
  
  
• Excluding 9/11, it would have accounted for fewer murders than occurred in the first 3 days.
  
  
• It would have accounted for a similar number of deaths as those occurring on the road in its very first day (the period 1979-2015 had 1,538,000 total road deaths).

Right wingers starting to use ****ty memes and fb becoming awful happened at the same time

the craziest thing is that even though the US President is now literally Hitler and the GOP is the new KKK the demand of non White people wanting to come to the USA has not dropped off at all.

cite?

That's some good work there. What would also be great would be if there was any data on Christian-based shootings, but no doubt it's hard to get. Probably there aren't many, but I'd guess that there is a God aspect to enough of the homicides in the US that they far outweigh the muslim acts in the post 9-11 era.

Yes they have and that's great. And don't get me wrong, I think it's great that people do protest for what they think they should.
The difference is that there have been no widespread, continuing, large scale protests against US military activities. And I get it, this has happended for decades and people got used to it.
But when you think about it, it's absurd.
Trump temporarily stops people from certain countries from entering the US and people are afraid he might be the next Hitler.
Obama let the US Army drop thousands of bombs on other countries but he's cool, no harm done. I don't get it, really.

I see why people think this immigration ban is bad and even I think it's not a good idea.
But please pause and reflect for a moment that Obama did refuse people in other countries basic civil rights by killing them and their family members. The US violated the sovereignity of other countries.
Travelling the world and entering another country is no basic human right.
What the US has done for decades is far worse than not letting people into your country imho.

Also, you guys will be fine. What do you think will change in your lives throughout this year? I bet for most of you, nothing will change. You will be able to express your opinion, you will be able to be gay, you will be allowed to go on with your life.
Comparing Trump to Hitler is ridiculous and childish.
You know, a lot of people here in Germany are afraid of immigrants and Islam. But they are fine and for the most part, their lives haven't changed. I think their fearmongering is as unsubstantial as the fearmongering in this thread.

Should we expect all green card holders that suffered inconvenience or worse from this to sue and get money from the government? The WH confirming that it applies to green card holders is so surreal to me. It can't be legal to do this on a general basis applying to every green card holder out there?


Trump's twitter is great this morning. First a tweet about his war with the NY Times:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 14 min
Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity!

And then straight to his immigration ban saying the USA should make sure it does not turn into Europe! It seems like his war with the NYTimes is more important to him than all the personal drama his ban is causing.

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6 min
Our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting, NOW. Look what is happening all over Europe and, indeed, the world - a horrible mess!

Thanks for your service (if it's true). And thanks for the great idea about donating to ACLU. It's true, it did help me feel a little better!

Is this confirmed real? Google comes up empty.

It would be quite annoying that right wing nutbags have hijacked the term "fake news" were it not for the fact they always use it in uppercase so it's easy to distinguish between the original and new meanings.

"Steve Kornacki ‏@SteveKornacki 2m2 minutes ago

Lyft says it is donating $1 million to the ACLU in protest of Trump's refugee order."

I usually use Lyft over Uber for vague/fuzzy reasons related to Uber's apparent greed, support for underdog, and willingness to flout laws, think I'll do so permanently. The crossover of uber/lyft users and trump voters is likely under 20% based on demographics.