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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

04-16-2018 , 11:30 AM
Even KEEEEEEEEED and Sklansky are going to struggle with this.
04-16-2018 , 11:36 AM
I mean, comey said himself the reason he made the announcement was because he thought she was sure to win and wanted to reduce the narrative that the investigation was softballed to counter the assured claims of illegitimacy.

Comey is a piece of **** and who knows if that was what he was thinking or not, but it didn’t help his credibility to say it.

ETA: I can’t be believe I can translate trump now.
04-16-2018 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
honestly i find it very strange how every day in this thread people post trump tweets and write things like 'what the hell!? this doesn't make any sense at all?' and 'wow, did he really just say [something stupid]???' and 'omg i can't believe this awful awful man is the president'

every day for the last 15 months. how many of these tweets were actually newsworthy, or had concrete real world effects that make them worth discussing and not a pointless waste of everyone's time?
A significant portion of the voting public believes his tweets. They affect public sentiment and his political support, which is really ****ing important because nearly all avenues to punish Trump are political in nature. Then there are secondary effects such as the deterioration of jnstitutional norms.
04-16-2018 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
All of them? I realize it's repetitive and it's only dernald tromp, but I guess he's like president of the US and stuff.
Yeah I mean the USA is still a pretty important country despite its current jopke status. It's leader being an unhinged lunatic babbling incoherent nonsense 140 characters at a time is pretty newsworthy no matter how many times it happens.
04-16-2018 , 11:53 AM
OK, I am just not ready for emoji-based political reporting.


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One longtime Team Comey source—who is still an FBI agent—sent thumbs-up emojis repeatedly during the first half hour, but even this loyalist began to lose patience by the halfway mark—sending a frowny face. A few minutes later there was a nauseous emoji, and then a poop emoji after the final segment.

Another former FBI official not historically known for their use of emojis, sent a bowing emjoi which—they explained in a follow up message—they believed to mean “slamming my head into something, obviously.”
04-16-2018 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
And do you think it would have been better off to not warn them?
They should have warned them and then not launched. Then after the Russians and Syrians hunker down for a week or whatever the US comes out and is all like, 'LOL SIKE!'
04-16-2018 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
honestly i find it very strange how every day in this thread people post trump tweets and write things like 'what the hell!? this doesn't make any sense at all?' and 'wow, did he really just say [something stupid]???' and 'omg i can't believe this awful awful man is the president'

every day for the last 15 months. how many of these tweets were actually newsworthy, or had concrete real world effects that make them worth discussing and not a pointless waste of everyone's time?
this is a real shortsighted post. trump's tweets have been incredibly damaging to norms, to the office, to polarization, etc.

they have further normalized and entrenched his cult of clownshow conspiritard idiocy at the very least.
04-16-2018 , 12:40 PM
Comey is saying that he assumed Hilary would win so he made the announcement about the emails so that after the election his failure to announce wouldn't de-legitimize her presidency.

Trump is just running with "Comey is saying that he assumed Hilary would win so he" without addressing the rest of it. "His" people will not know exactly how this affected Comey's actions, and will not understand that he says that out of an abundance of caution he actually HARMED her candidacy. All they know or need to know is that he's a crook and he was taking actions with the assumption that Hilary would win, and was therefore biased against their man.
04-16-2018 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
Comey is saying that he assumed Hilary would win so he made the announcement about the emails so that after the election his failure to announce wouldn't de-legitimize her presidency.

Trump is just running with "Comey is saying that he assumed Hilary would win so he" without addressing the rest of it. "His" people will not know exactly how this affected Comey's actions, and will not understand that he says that out of an abundance of caution he actually HARMED her candidacy. All they know or need to know is that he's a crook and he was taking actions with the assumption that Hilary would win, and was therefore biased against their man.
But they do know! During the election they took Comey's letter and ran with it hard. There 's some reporting that Trump himself expected to lose. I mean when people say Trump's dumb they mean he's uninterested in facts or comprehending things, but he does do the thing were he bowls over people by tayloring his projection of reality to put himself in the best light and make other look bad. His big advantage is not being held to a coherent reality and a GOP willing to indulge him for political power. He can take advantage of Comey's letter during the election and then turn around and complain that Comey was biased.

The problem, like people have been saying, is the GOP is the only force that government institutions are afraid of. Comey said he was afraid of Clinton's legacy but who was he afraid would be doing the damaging? It wasn't that Democrats would be disillusioned with her, it's that the GOP would turn their machine on her and by extension the FBI. They're the gorilla in the room that everyone had to placate, even when they're supposed to be losing.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 04-16-2018 at 01:20 PM.
04-16-2018 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
But there was a plan


Lie
Kill saddam
Make money

Get Bush re-elected

Mission Accomplished
FYP
04-16-2018 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Why are you trying to interpret this through the lens of objective facts in history we both know are true?
The media is helping him with both of those by constantly reporting that McCabe and Comey's are facing "scrutiny over their handling of the Clinton investigation" and other extremely vague weasel wording. The actual IG reports are criticizing them for being too aggressively anti-Clinton but just reading an article the subject gets so abstracted it's tough to understand unless you're a political junkie.

So yeah, Trump absolutely thinks the IG report criticisms are validation that they didn't lock her up, and that is probably the CW throughout the right. Comey's ***** ass in 60 minutes still didn't ****ing explain that he didn't bring charges because she didn't break the law.
04-16-2018 , 01:15 PM
Kind of a disappointing Monday. No big corruption scandal or break into the Mueller investigation.

Only thing rage inducing is that Trump is going to put work requirements on everything welfare to try and reduce the rolls.
04-16-2018 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The media is helping him with both of those by constantly reporting that McCabe and Comey's are facing "scrutiny over their handling of the Clinton investigation" and other extremely vague weasel wording. The actual IG reports are criticizing them for being too aggressively anti-Clinton but just reading an article the subject gets so abstracted it's tough to understand unless you're a political junkie.

So yeah, Trump absolutely thinks the IG report criticisms are validation that they didn't lock her up, and that is probably the CW throughout the right. Comey's ***** ass in 60 minutes still didn't ****ing explain that he didn't bring charges because she didn't break the law.
It seems republican comey was trying to set the tone for hillarys presidency by setting her on the back foot from the start. He'd have loved nothing more than a hil pres beset by "scandal" from day one. He'd have joined his GOP bretheren in holding 7 million hearings into all sorts of nonsense. He's saying 'hey all i was doing was following the standard gop playbook of ginning up ludicrous garbage to harm democrats i didnt realise it would throw the whole election to a lunatic thats on you guys.'
04-16-2018 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
But they do know!
This is a group of people who can know something and not know it at the same time. Forgetting stuff that happened over a year ago is child's play.
04-16-2018 , 01:33 PM
Poor Deplorable Spurs fans having a hard time rooting for team because Pop knows what's up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true
04-16-2018 , 02:01 PM
Pop has more guts than every Republican in congress combined.
04-16-2018 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Poor Deplorable Spurs fans having a hard time rooting for team because Pop knows what's up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true
The idiocy is impressive. The one woman says their job is to entertain her, so they should keep politics out. As a result, she won't watch movies with actors who speak out with liberal views... So keep your politics out of it, entertainers, unless you agree with me then it's totally okay obviously.

One of the core underlying things we keep seeing is racists not understanding that they're racist. A huge chunk of Americans defines racism as violence based on race, using a slur to their face, or stuff like spitting on minorities. They don't realize they're racist for anything that falls short of that, so they get this self-righteous indignation at being called racist.

Obviously explaining it to them hasn't worked, they refuse to listen and just lash out in return. That they're cutting their favorite sources of entertainment out to stand on their "principles" is not a good sign for America.
04-16-2018 , 02:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbQB1EQ32CE

good vid on Syria stuff.

**waits patiently for anti-adam001 trolls**
04-16-2018 , 02:12 PM
The sad fact is that most people are just too stupid and easily manipulated to be given any power over others. Hence the appeal of libertarian ideology, which somehow produces even worse results than democracy when implemented. Getting around how stupid and generally horrible most people are is a pretty big problem.
04-16-2018 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
The idiocy is impressive. The one woman says their job is to entertain her, so they should keep politics out. As a result, she won't watch movies with actors who speak out with liberal views... So keep your politics out of it, entertainers, unless you agree with me then it's totally okay obviously.

One of the core underlying things we keep seeing is racists not understanding that they're racist. A huge chunk of Americans defines racism as violence based on race, using a slur to their face, or stuff like spitting on minorities. They don't realize they're racist for anything that falls short of that, so they get this self-righteous indignation at being called racist.

Obviously explaining it to them hasn't worked, they refuse to listen and just lash out in return. That they're cutting their favorite sources of entertainment out to stand on their "principles" is not a good sign for America.
Yea the outrage at NFL players kneeling completely baffles me. They say respect the flag but have no problem with a flag the size of a football field laying horizontal and not vertical and free. On top of that, the protests last 2 min. Half of these dopes had no problem taking a piss or eating during the anthem up until last year. It's amazing how easy it is manipulate people.
04-16-2018 , 02:17 PM
Trump puts the brakes on new Russian sanctions, reversing Haley’s announcement
Haley said on CBS News’ “Face the Nation” that sanctions on Russian companies behind the equipment related to Assad’s alleged chemical weapons attack would be announced Monday by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.


But as officials in Moscow condemned the planned sanctions as overly punitive, Trump conferred with his national security advisers later Sunday and told them he was upset the sanctions were being officially rolled out because he was not yet comfortable executing them, according to several people familiar with the plan.
04-16-2018 , 02:17 PM
Yeah we need to realize that we are doomed to repeat history if we keep making the exact same mistakes. Should be pretty obvious. Humans, when grouped and in power, will always give in to the "collective ego". This will always translate to abuse of power and eventually, evil actions. If we cannot find a way to have transparency in our governments, we will always face the same issues eventually down the road. Fiat currency is another thing that is doomed from the get-go and I suggest people hedge their bets into crypto/gold/silver/guns/ammo/food/water. Every fiat currency has failed in the history of mankind, its only a matter of time.

https://youtu.be/wDj6LBW55aU

Good video explaining "collective ego" issues in government and every other aspect of life to varying degrees. Also explains why my posts are consistently hated on ITT without any good arguments, just pure emotion based response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qqc3gL3oHE

Good video explaining "systems thinking" which also applies to government that I believe is a must watch for anyone interested. It is an important concept to understand for anyone, but applies specifically to government issues quite well.
04-16-2018 , 02:18 PM
Ain't nobody watching your utoobz, bro
04-16-2018 , 02:20 PM
Spamming ****ty links while not being smart enough to embed, the adamwhateverthe**** experience.
04-16-2018 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Ain't nobody watching your utoobz, bro
While this one might be a troll, it remains consistent with how anyone seems to respond to anything I say.

      
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