I think I read one of Harris’s books when I was an undergrad and the whole edgy New Atheist thing was more in my wheelhouse. Even assuming he’s acting in good faith, his whole shtick is abrasive and plays directly into the hands of rightwing bigots. And frankly it’s hard to give him the benefit of the doubt when he’s palling around with Charles Murray and Bari Weiss.

As far as being skeptical of religion goes, I don’t think Harris really has any idea that aren’t expressed more tactfully by Carl Sagan or pre-dementia Richard Dawkins.

As an aside, this Muslim ban is a great example of why Harris’s brand of in-your-face religious criticism needs to have a measure of context and tact.

The Garrison drawings are pretty much the worst cartoons out there. Aren't there any cartoonists out there to make fun of that are actually good at their job?

Political cartoons are the nut low of comedy.

CTH did a podcast on analyzing conservative cartoonists. Very funny.

lol these dudes love to give out homework assignments instead of just defending **** on the merits, which they can't.


Shut the **** up.

Shut the **** up.

LOL what is this gear turning show your work bull****? Shut the **** up.

Hmmm. Shut the **** up.

Nope, they are racist pieces of ****. **** them.

This isn't actually English. And, no, Harris doesn't give a **** about Trump or see him as a threat to the planet(lol wut). If that was the case he'd have hitched his horse to the lucrative in it's own right #Resistance podcast/tour/book game. Instead he's doing Koch bros sponsored events about the illiberal left's threat to free speech, palling around with people who sue their critics for slander at the drop of a hat.

Sorry I'm ignorant about this travel ban, but:

- Is this the fourth travel ban, specifically, that we're talking about?
- Is the travel ban expressly temporary (90 days), or are these citizens barred from entry indefinitely?
- Is there any consideration made for visa holders or permanent residents? (ie can someone of those nationalities lawfully residing in the country leave and be denied re-entry?)

It's pretty difficult to figure these facts out from the news.

Jesus Christ this thread sometime.

Harris is “palling around with Charles Murray...” in the exact same way 60 minutes is palling around with Putin when they interview him.

Harris believes you solve issues with open discussion. He is correct of course.

It’s completley insane to argue that disagreeing with someone with bad ideas is the same as agreeing with them is Black Mirror stuff.

Now to be fair, his conversation with Murray was mostly about academic freedom and only moderately about race science.

When it comes to his other “pal” Peterson, he basically spends his entire time disagreeing with the guy.

Trump continues to think tariffs are taxes on foreign countries and not American citizens.

Easier said than done. FDR had insane majorities so it was a credible threat.

Yea it's what Southpaw said on Twitter. It's pure Calvinball now with the Republican majority. Can't show any possible religious animus when deciding about a cake, but can say explicitly bigoted things and get a travel ban passed.

A. lol

B. Why on Earth pick Charles Murray? He’s not a 1st Amendment scholar or any kind of expert on academic freedom, he’s a crackpot phrenologist.

Did we ever figure out what the hell was going on?

They tried to do this during the first ban, who knows what happens now.

But that's the whole reason why Murray's academic freedom is supposedly being censored! That's like talking to a white nationalist and commiserating with him that some people just don't want to work with him because people aren't used to "radical ideas". The whole reason why people won't work with them is because their radical ideas are about subjugating the people they're working with, not just because of the radicalness of it.

You have to bring the base content in otherwise it does look like you're palling around with a guy because you're not to worried about what's causing the problem in the first place.

That's why I don't think Harris is a racist, but his worldview is flawed in ways that doesn't make him very useful or interesting. It makes him a conduit for aggrieved "just the facts" fanboys who can't understand why black people don't want to debate racial IQ just for kicks in their dorm room, or why women don't answer every "but actually" post in their Facebook feed, and blame it on a lack of rational thought.

Now fly is claiming Harris supports trump! We are past any sort of connection to reality at all.

Here is a recent comment of his.

Just assume the worst. Then know that’s the law now.

Yeah, I know, but that remains our best path to mitigate the harms caused by these clowns.

Interestingly enough Harley used to be a client of mine, and the management once told me that they make at least as much revenue from their merchandising and brand licensing as they do from actually selling motorcycles.

Which I would agree with, considering how inefficient and messy their manufacturing operation was, at least at the KC plant (Tomahawk was supposedly better but I never worked there). Contrasted with Honda's motorcycle plant in Ohio, where you can literally eat off the floor, and it's no wonder they struggled to turn a profit for a while.

Harris titled that podcast "Forbidden Knowledge", and uh, did he? Did Harris solve that issue with his open discussion? Because it seems like what happened is he immensely misinformed his audience about the academic debate on race and genetics and IQ then cried a lot when people were mildly critical of him.

Seriously I broke this dude's language center. This is like three sentences mashed together lol.

For people who are so invested in easy fairy tales about being smart I have to tell you spending all that time listening to Sam ****ing Harris is a TERRIBLE INVESTMENT. You see the results. I'm ****ing clowning you about it, laughing in your face and ****.

Part of the issue is that any form intellectualism is pretty much obsolete in the Trump era. What's the point of writing an essay about a dumb racist tweet? How would you even get an essay out of it? In order to stir controversy and get clicks you have to go after your own. That's why you actually do see essays about De Niro, Kathy Griffin, the Red Hen, etc.. Harris has done enough of that sort that he's confused enough alt-right deplorables into thinking that he's actually on their side, and he's confused enough liberals into believing that he's an actual deplorable.

Why not campaign on abolishing partisan supreme court picks? Make the judges themselves appoint others that are respected

Yeah I generally like you, but I'm not sure why you have to add anti-islamisist (sic) to anti-religion when one is a subset of the other.

I kind of have a theory as to why Harris does it, though.

History disagrees with your conclusions. Look at Nixon appointing Burger as ccj because of Warren or Jefferson s expectations when he apponted Marshall, his second cousin.

Tube drivers in the UK are going to strike when Trump visits.

Like these dudes are melting down at me doing the vile SJW hoaxing to Harris here, let's just see what he had to say about Murray

Like maybe y'all shoulda checked in with HQ before conceding that race science and Murray were bad, because that ain't what Harris thinks! For ****'s sake.