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Old 12-30-2018, 07:14 PM   #151
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:21 PM   #152
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Trump is def hoping for a major terrorist attack by ISIS in order to boost his ratings. Such a ****ing ghoul.
Been wondering when his Reichstag moment would come since the very beginning. No doubt he'll hamstring intelligence to make a terrorist attack more likely if he feels it'll bump his approval ratings.

Problem is that I think people's views are way too solidified now for a terror attack to change them, especially in an age where things like that are 3 day news stories rather than epic stories that never go away.

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Old 12-30-2018, 07:24 PM   #153
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Show her my daughter's piece on libcom. (http://libcom.org/news/yellow-vests-act-v-19122018)

Or maybe not. Your's is to young to be giving ideas about running off to France.
OK I was wrong I shouldn't show her this lol
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:34 PM   #154
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Retired Army Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the former commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, sharply criticized President Trump on Sunday, calling him immoral and untruthful and taking aim at his foreign-policy decisions.

In an interview on ABC News’s “This Week,” McChrystal told host Martha Raddatz of Trump, “I don’t think he tells the truth.” The general also responded affirmatively when asked whether he believes Trump is “immoral.”

McChrystal said that contrary to Trump’s claim, the Islamic State militant group, also known as ISIS, has not yet been defeated.

“I don’t believe ISIS is defeated. I think ISIS is as much an idea as it is a number of ISIS fighters. There’s a lot of intelligence that says there are actually more ISIS fighters around the world now than there were a couple of years ago,” he said.
McChrystal was cashiered for running his mouth about the president while commanding troops in the field... possibly not the best person to have on to critique POTUS, or really to talk about anything.
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:49 PM   #155
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So his military opinion doesn't matter because he isn't pro-Trump?
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:56 PM   #156
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McChrystal was cashiered for running his mouth about the president while commanding troops in the field... possibly not the best person to have on to critique POTUS, or really to talk about anything.
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Old 12-30-2018, 09:39 PM   #157
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Trump is def hoping for a major terrorist attack by ISIS in order to boost his ratings. Such a ****ing ghoul.
Sorry if I'm a bit dense. Trump declares ISIS defeated, withdraws from Syria and allows them to rejuvenate, and then gets a popularity boost when they launch a terrorist attack? Why? I'm thinking it would further solidify his unpopularity, but that's just me.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:11 PM   #158
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Sorry if I'm a bit dense. Trump declares ISIS defeated, withdraws from Syria and allows them to rejuvenate, and then gets a popularity boost when they launch a terrorist attack? Why? I'm thinking it would further solidify his unpopularity, but that's just me.
Yeah, youre dense. GW had 80% approval after 9/11 because he vowed to protect us from the scary muslims. The GOP is fueled by fear. Without an occasional attack to keep people frightened of brown people they might start voting for things like health care and collective bargaining.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:17 PM   #159
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Yeah, youre dense. GW had 80% approval after 9/11 because he vowed to protect us from the scary muslims. The GOP is fueled by fear. Without an occasional attack to keep people frightened of brown people they might start voting for things like health care and collective bargaining.
Thanks. Nice to know nothing has changed over the past 18 years.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:20 PM   #160
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Sorry if I'm a bit dense. Trump declares ISIS defeated, withdraws from Syria and allows them to rejuvenate, and then gets a popularity boost when they launch a terrorist attack? Why? I'm thinking it would further solidify his unpopularity, but that's just me.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:26 PM   #161
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:28 PM   #162
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Sorry if I'm a bit dense. Trump declares ISIS defeated, withdraws from Syria and allows them to rejuvenate, and then gets a popularity boost when they launch a terrorist attack? Why? I'm thinking it would further solidify his unpopularity, but that's just me.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:30 PM   #163
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I'd like to think we were a lot more naïve about terrorism in 2001 than we are now. We were scared. So of course Bush would get a boost when he launched the "war on terror". Absolutely nothing has moved the needle on Trump in the past two years. But his response to a terrorist attack would make a difference? What would his response be? Would he admit withdrawing from Syria was a mistake? Would that help his popularity?

Disregarding all of that. If there's a single person in this forum who would change their opinion of Trump and get behind him for his response to a terror attack...let them stand up and identify themselves now.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:40 PM   #164
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I'd like to think we were a lot more naïve about terrorism in 2001 than we are now. We were scared. So of course Bush would get a boost when he launched the "war on terror". Absolutely nothing has moved the needle on Trump in the past two years. But his response to a terrorist attack would make a difference? What would his response be? Would he admit withdrawing from Syria was a mistake? Would that help his popularity?

Disregarding all of that. If there's a single person in this forum who would change their opinion of Trump and get behind him for his response to a terror attack...let them stand up and identify themselves now.
He'd go to war with Iran no matter where the attacker came from and >50% of America would believe it was the right thing to do.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:51 PM   #165
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He'd go to war with Iran no matter where the attacker came from and >50% of America would believe it was the right thing to do.
And you would count yourself among the 50+% or no?

Bush was in his first year in the White House and America was still getting to know him. His act was pretty presidential. I just don't see a similar response from America after two years of Trump. If the **** was really hitting the fan, most would want him out ASAP.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:55 PM   #166
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Absolutely nothing has moved the needle on Trump in the past two years. But his response to a terrorist attack would make a difference?
His approval numbers went up when he launched missiles in Syria and dropped the MOAB in Afghanistan, a terror attack and response would boost his numbers.
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We're a terrible sample for this, average people who pay little attention to political **** are the key demo and they lap up war.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:03 PM   #167
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I'd like to think we were a lot more naïve about terrorism in 2001 than we are now. We were scared. So of course Bush would get a boost when he launched the "war on terror". Absolutely nothing has moved the needle on Trump in the past two years. But his response to a terrorist attack would make a difference? What would his response be? Would he admit withdrawing from Syria was a mistake? Would that help his popularity?

Disregarding all of that. If there's a single person in this forum who would change their opinion of Trump and get behind him for his response to a terror attack...let them stand up and identify themselves now.
My original comment was geared towards what Trump would do or think. I agree that it wouldn't move the needle much as far as the public goes. But that doesn't mean this ****ing moron wouldn't try something.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:16 PM   #168
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Note on that GWB graph not merely the giant spike for 9/11 but the smaller spike in... well, it looks to be about March 2003. I wonder what happened then that could have caused that? Real mystery.
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Democrats need to start getting stronger on messaging. Trump can negotiate for the wall without shutting down the government. This is not how democracy works. He is acting like a terrorist. He thinks he is a dictator.
Yeah I am not sure why they don’t pound on a clean CR. Has never made sense to me in any of these shutdowns.

Except they are all sleazebag “deal makers” so actually pushing for the concept of a clean CR in aggressive manner goes against every fiber of their being.

This problem is trivial to resolve, so making anything requisite on doing it should be pounded hard.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:20 PM   #170
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Literally every post I have made in this and Trump 1.0 was only to keep my subscription alive. Fml. Hundreds (or more) needless posts by me.
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Note on that GWB graph not merely the giant spike for 9/11 but the smaller spike in... well, it looks to be about March 2003. I wonder what happened then that could have caused that? Real mystery.
Some might mistakenly say invading Iraq but in reality at that time we were actively talking about invading Australia first.
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Literally every post I have made in this and Trump 1.0 was only to keep my subscription alive. Fml. Hundreds (or more) needless posts by me.

The post I responded to has since been deleted.
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Note on that GWB graph not merely the giant spike for 9/11 but the smaller spike in... well, it looks to be about March 2003. I wonder what happened then that could have caused that? Real mystery.
To this day that really pisses me off. We knew. The run up to war was obviously bull**** to anybody paying even a little bit of attention. This retconned crap about only discovering the truth years later is pure, self-serving nonsense by *******s trying to hide their guilt. We already knew it was a bunch of lies, and we did it anyway.
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