The conspiritard industry has gotta really hate the shooters being identified as OSP troopers, and not "Feds". Percentage wise, that's gotta be a double-digit decline in future page hits and eventual $$$$ scammed.

put me down for "there's probably a way to end that confrontation without a death but that's like the 700th worst police shooting in the past year"

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...128-story.html

Lol, don't arrest us and nobody dies, or we're all just kind of willing to stay here. Wtf were these people thinking getting involved in this mess? "Why can't I just leave like I done before? I don't want to go to jail. Why do bad things happen to me?"

Basically this. Any problem with that incident is one endemic to the prevailing system, not particular to those circumstances.

yeah, i got a chuckle out of that. bunch of pussies.

every one of their sentences should be extended by 5 years under the just now implemented "ccotenj damn fool statute"*, which states that sentences may be extended indefinitely in cases of being a damn fool.

* if they can make their own gubmint, so can i.

Remember, these are the class of people that think poor blacks are overly entitled. "Look all we're asking is to be able to break the law, eat our snacks on your property for a few months, then be done with it, OK, no harm no foul, just let us go OK?"

Was there ever a rundown of what these guys actually do for a day job? I know there were a few ranchers, the foster child care guy, etc. But seriously, wtf do they do?

I shouldn't be surprised that they inexplicably assumed they could be involved in this without ending up arrested. "****, we actually have to shoot it out and die for this bs in order to avoid jail? How did this happen? We just wanted to play tough cowboys for few weeks, consequence free."

They probably don't have much of a stake in society, they obv aren't worried about throwing their jobs or careers away. Live in mom's basement?

Made by some doughnut shop in Portland, according to the internet.

Should have been served impaled on a dildo.

The Constitution is more important.

Obviously no, the theory is that nonlethal ordinance was used on the boat and anyone reporting on how there were 108 "bullet" holes either feels it's not worth distinguishing between the two or doesn't realize there's a difference. Don't know where you got three grenades from but there were more than that and not just grenades. They're not magic grenades but actual stun/flash bang/other types that would absolutely rip holes in the boat, would pierce skin at the right angle or at least hurt like hell, but would rarely kill anyone.


Literally all of them. I was wondering what the opposing theory was. It must be either that nonlethal ordinance wouldn't punch bullet-like holes through thin fiberglass, or that everyone reporting on the number of bullet holes in the boat took the time to analyze each one and determine whether it was in fact a bullet hole or damage from the other ordinance used. And if the latter, I guess nobody thought the damage from the other ordinance was interesting enough to report on. Understood now. Everyone thinks nonlethal rounds are as gentle as puppy fur. I can tell you that's not the case, so maybe reevaluate your theories based on this new information.

The larger point applied before we had all of the information about what happened in Oregon. My argument was that the guy shot and killed must have been an actual threat, because otherwise they would have used nonlethal force to apprehend everyone. It was a corollary to those who were like "It was probably just trigger happy LEOs cause Ferguson or whatever." We got off on this tangent because noodle (or whatever he wants to call himself now) wanted to punch holes in my argument by bringing up how the hour long, carefully executed operation to get the Boston bomber out of the boat alive was actually just a bunch of LEOs unleashing a hail of bullets into the boat. Despite that being not how these things go down, as evidenced by the Oregon video, and despite the video showing the actual tactics used, which include a lot of explosive devices that probably sound like gunshots and leave damage to vehicles like gunshots, and despite an actual play by play of the Boston incident leaking out onto the Internet which mentions the use of flash bangs and stun grenades but never any lethal fire, people still want to cling to the theory that it was all bullets. You're right, it is stupid. In part because it doesn't matter anymore, the Oregon operation went down the way I said it would. But also because the overwhelming evidence points towards the boat full of bullet holes theory to be wrong. I'm not sure how anyone believes that's the more reasonable explanation at this point.

You know the people cheering them on are the type to shout 'get a job!' as they drive by a protest for fight for 15 or BLM too.

Why would anyone ever fire a beanbag round at a boat?

Just to put this nonsense to rest:

Officials: Boston suspect had no firearm when barrage of bullets hit hiding place

So, yes they were bullet holes. Yes, authorities fired live rounds into the boat. Yes, they probably had good reason to do so.

Just a grand conspiracy from the media. All you sheeple just buying in.

Probably helped that he was laying next to the engine block. Otherwise those bean bags may have gone right thru him.

Sean 'Kill Them!' Anderson already has a considerable criminal record for multiple misdemeanours. The thing they can't stand, as Fry mentioned in his last YouTube address to the planet, is that they now face a felony rap which means they won't be able to own guns any more.

To sink it apparently.

Joking about beanbags and conspiracy theories despite my posts mentioning neither of those things further reinforces the fact that you have nothing of substance to argue about.

Well yeah, the facts are settled and you're wrong. We're just laughing at you at this point.

I'm actually kind of with d10 here. I assume the majority of the "bullet holes" were from non-lethal ordinance and the media using "bullet" as a generic term for "lethal bullet, rubber bullet, and other non lethal ordinance" seems like a totally reasonable possibility.

Edit: Although I can't find any actual evidence of non-lethal ammo being used...

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Hey look, I can claim everything's settled too. Looks like I win and noodles is wrong. Glad it was that easy.

The threadjack is sucking me in. Wouldn't really real bullets have blasted right through the boat and hit other stuff behind it?

Edit: Unless there's stuff in between the fiberglass that will catch them all like Pokemans. Idk I am not a boatman.

by 'media' here I assume you mean 'the FBI and other LEOs'