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05-16-2014 , 08:01 AM
Yeah, list is completely farcical. Put me at top, whatever, I can take that burden. So many are ****ed up beyond that, and theN you posted it in the wrong thread.
05-16-2014 , 08:03 AM
Can we also get an awesomeness chart? I just can't fathom being terrible without also being awesome.
05-16-2014 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Yeah, list is completely farcical. Put me at top, whatever, I can take that burden.
Yeah....you're really a martyr to the cause of terrible posting imo.
05-16-2014 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Yeah, going to every meeting you get invited to is a huge rookie mistake at work. I always make any meetings with more than 5 people and have a danger of going on forever lunch/breakfast meetings. People are less likely to show up, especially at lunch time, and if they do show up they are more likely to keep their pieholes shut. Now I just need a solution to the scourge of over ccing.

If you expect attendance make sure you write a decent invite. Managers can assign attendees and follow the progress without going to the actual meeting. I think your default should be no unless your management chain sent out the invite. Bonus points if you can figure out who the movers and shakers are in other departments. Never too early to kiss up to the chosen ones whose initiatives are likely to be considered important. Also avoid any team that is doomed to fail. I missed on this one in a big way but I knew "SEC response team to X" was a loser. Effectively ended my career but a have a lucrative no effort required consulting gig (healthcare included thanks to much smarter people than me who negotiated this in) that will last until the statute of limitations run out or indictments are issued.

Last edited by seattlelou; 05-16-2014 at 08:34 AM.
05-16-2014 , 08:52 AM
Man, I totally have to start a "Tell me about working in an office" thread. I really have no idea what you guys do all day
05-16-2014 , 08:55 AM
That kind of talk is 100% why I avoided that kind of job.
05-16-2014 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Man, I totally have to start a "Tell me about working in an office" thread. I really have no idea what you guys do all day
Send out emails

Read emails

Figure out what meeting to go to

Go to the meetings you decided to attend

Figure out what you want to do at lunch

Go to lunch where you decided to go


EZ game
05-16-2014 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Man, I totally have to start a "Tell me about working in an office" thread. I really have no idea what you guys do all day
+1

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Originally Posted by ikestoys
That kind of talk is 100% why I avoided that kind of job.
+2
05-16-2014 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Man, I totally have to start a "Tell me about working in an office" thread. I really have no idea what you guys do all day
05-16-2014 , 09:08 AM
My dad has started joking that despite having surgery and now starting chemo, he hasn't lost any productivity at his job. The way he tells it he's so good at his job that he can do all his real work in about 2 hours each day.
05-16-2014 , 09:20 AM
Yeah but blood makes me queasy. No chance to work in medicine. Despite my dad's ability to design and build stuff like he was MacGyver I didn't get his aptitude. Zikzak is out. Pharmacy sounds interesting I liked chemistry. I like JayTees career path. I can barely work google search but coding like Suzzer once was a real interest as a kid that might have worked. Wookie and Max science/math Phd's from those top ranked institutions was a possibility(lol) but there seems to be unintended consequences of all that job stability/earning power/meaningful work. You end up trolling libertarians on the internet.
Nah maybe one of those dumb lawyers Riverman described above. Writing terms and conditions and boilerplate contracts pretending it had some meaning.

Last edited by seattlelou; 05-16-2014 at 09:26 AM.
05-16-2014 , 09:25 AM
You could get a bachelors or masters in chem and be like a pharma technician. It's reasonable pay in a fun field and probably more stable than a lot of the phd-type jobs.
05-16-2014 , 09:29 AM
You need a ton less than that to be a pharm tech.
05-16-2014 , 09:31 AM
Walter White made a bunch of money. Stir me up a batch of the blue.
05-16-2014 , 09:31 AM
lol have you seen the end of that show?
05-16-2014 , 09:33 AM
I don't have an office job but I don't get the whole 'deciding which meetings to attend' thing. Like if I'm requested to be in a meeting, it means that I need to be there, at my job at least. If I skipped a meeting because, 'nah boss im electing out of this one' then, well, there would be consequences
05-16-2014 , 09:34 AM
My mom is a pharm tech and has zero college education. And no you don't make any money
05-16-2014 , 09:35 AM
My office has some optional, some mandatory meetings. It's chaos.
05-16-2014 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
I don't have an office job but I don't get the whole 'deciding which meetings to attend' thing. Like if I'm requested to be in a meeting, it means that I need to be there, at my job at least. If I skipped a meeting because, 'nah boss im electing out of this one' then, well, there would be consequences
in the real world, most people who are meeting organizers have no idea who actually gets **** done, so they just blanket-invite whole teams. If they actually knew who was doing stuff they would be doing something more important than organizing meetings.
05-16-2014 , 09:38 AM
Granted I don't have like a ton of meetings...there's a weekly supervisory meeting, a monthly management meeting, a mostly-weekly meeting for an ongoing project we're working on, and then the weekly meeting we hold for the group that I supervise. If I was in higher management I'm sure I'd have a more.

But it's like, the weekly supervisory meeting is a meeting of the 5 supervisors that are roughly in my area. Gotta go. The monthly management meeting is like super-mandatory, gotta go. I have to go to the project meeting because well I'm working on the project. And I'm the one hosting the last meeting. I'm sure it's different at larger companies and ones where it's more of an office environment
05-16-2014 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
in the real world, most people who are meeting organizers have no idea who actually gets **** done, so they just blanket-invite whole teams. If they actually knew who was doing stuff they would be doing something more important than organizing meetings.
+1. A company the size of Boeing made it really hard for people to understand the basic functions of divisions and departments. HQ staff had a better higher level picture but rarely understood how **** actually like making planes gets accomplished. Management at a fairly high level should be setting up teams for those rare task oriented meetings that can be useful for solving a particular problem. Of course tons of these meetings are initiated by some first or second line manager so they can bitch about how everybody else is making their jobs so hard or why their meaningless deadlines are oh so important. Middle manager bitch therapy filled with people who attend because they are too worthless/inexperienced to hit "no, I will not be attending."
05-16-2014 , 09:47 AM
I attend a daily scrum meeting that is virtual.

Last edited by adios; 05-16-2014 at 09:53 AM.
05-16-2014 , 09:52 AM
Alright, this is just pissing me off. Thread opened in OOT
05-16-2014 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
That kind of talk is 100% why I avoided that kind of job.
+me

still trying to figure out what kind of job I DO want though, so perhaps lol@me as well
05-16-2014 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
lol have you seen the end of that show?
I was pretty disappointed by the ending. I thought he should have been revealed that he had broken completely bad, a man without any redeeming value. They never addressed the untold damage his product wrought on the broader community. Sure somebody would have stepped in but greater availability of higher quality meth destroyed a lot more lives than the his other murders were the focus of the story lines. Pretty biased on the subject my perspective may be unique.

      
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