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05-12-2014 , 04:05 PM
At least ikes was right about the not close part.
05-12-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Silver_Man2 over in Unchained.
Lol? If Silverman 2 is a libertarian he is indistinguishable from a fly controlled gimmick account devoted to setting up awful straw mans. If this is such a libertarian thing, I'm sure we will see mainstream libertarians in the press talking about it (it isn't and we won't)
05-12-2014 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Silver_Man2 over in Unchained.
I'm not sure it's really correct to give SM credit for being able to actually hold any ideology.
05-12-2014 , 04:15 PM
Sure, it's low hanging fruit, but

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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
So, Silver_Man2... do you consider yourself a libertarian?
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Mostly...

I think the derelict drug addicts should be locked away.

Like the riffraff you see getting arrested on the show Cops.
If you insist on "mainstream" libertarians, they're probably smart enough to shut their mouths for their own good.
05-12-2014 , 04:21 PM
Or, you know, they actually agree with libertarian principles and don't care if someone comes out, and even more so don't care if he makes money by doing so.
05-12-2014 , 04:28 PM
Just got an e-mail from the California ACLU that they're lobbying to get the state to repeal a rule in a welfare program for families with children stating that a family will not receive additional aid for a child born after 10 months of receiving continuous aid. In other words, if you get pregnant while on that welfare program, CA isn't giving you more money to support that kid.

Any jimmies rustled? I feel like this could be a rustling issue.
05-12-2014 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Sure, it's low hanging fruit, but

If you insist on "mainstream" libertarians, they're probably smart enough to shut their mouths for their own good.
Just to expand a bit on my last post now that I'm off my phone...this is quite an odd post as it seems to imply that libertarians as a rule can barely keep contained their secret contempt for gays and only do so because they know it's good PR. Instead of a core belief, namely what someone does in his bedroom is no ones business, and people should be able to smoke weed, or have sex with other dudes, or whatever. This is what libertarianism is all about and libertarians have been pro gay long before the mainstream Democratic party. The Libertarian Party has been for gay rights since the seventies.

There are plenty of things to criticize about libertarians but this is just literally making **** up. Libertarians have long been on the right side of the gay rights issues.
05-12-2014 , 05:00 PM
Dude, haven't you been reading the PU thread? Libertarians cooked up AIDS in their secret underground labs, they also are responsible for the 2004 Tsunami, fukishima, chernobyl, and MH370.
05-12-2014 , 05:01 PM
Is there a libertarian duck cartoon?
05-12-2014 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Just got an e-mail from the California ACLU that they're lobbying to get the state to repeal a rule in a welfare program for families with children stating that a family will not receive additional aid for a child born after 10 months of receiving continuous aid. In other words, if you get pregnant while on that welfare program, CA isn't giving you more money to support that kid.

Any jimmies rustled? I feel like this could be a rustling issue.

This is interesting. How best to balance child welfare, compassion, limited resources and incentives. I would want to see expert analysis/opinion before forming an opinion.
05-12-2014 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Last night, in game 1 of the Boston-Montreal playoff series in the NHL, P.K. Subban (a black player from Canada on Montreal) scored both the first goal in the game and the winning goal in overtime.

In news that nobody could have predicted because racism is dead in America: Twitter reactions get super racist

(this is the sequel, after it also happened two years ago when Joel Ward eliminated Boston from the playoffs)
Article about racial bias against Subban and other black players in the NHL (I think the author is black as well)

To the surprise of nobody the comments section needs to be nuked from orbit
05-12-2014 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Just got an e-mail from the California ACLU that they're lobbying to get the state to repeal a rule in a welfare program for families with children stating that a family will not receive additional aid for a child born after 10 months of receiving continuous aid. In other words, if you get pregnant while on that welfare program, CA isn't giving you more money to support that kid.

Any jimmies rustled? I feel like this could be a rustling issue.
Seems like a rather blunt tool to deal with situations that should be looked at on an individual basis. People get obviously pregnant for a variety of reasons.
05-12-2014 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Or, you know, they actually agree with libertarian principles and don't care if someone comes out, and even more so don't care if he makes money by doing so.
I mostly agree and my use of"libertarians" was a poor choice since one of the things they generally stand for is social liberties. However, I do maintain my point that people will turn the jersey sales into "pushing the gay agenda" and how Sam/the NFL knew that they could make a killing in jersey sales by having an openly gay athlete and how they are hypocrites, etc, blah blah and so forth.
05-12-2014 , 07:56 PM
Sadly, I will admit to having spent a period of time getting worked up about entitlements. But at the end of the day it is a drop in the ****ing bucket and it enables tens of millions of people to live with a shred of dignity. Are poor people going to waste cash if you give it to them? Yeah. Are some people going to lose motivation and be sucked into a cycle of dependency? Sure. But if you cut off the benefits so many of those people will just become criminals or drug addicts who ultimately cost society much more. And some recipients and their kids will make their way out.

I mean, for what we spent on an entirely idiotic war in Iraq we could have funded all welfare programs for like three decades. Perspective people.
05-12-2014 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Sadly, I will admit to having spent a period of time getting worked up about entitlements. But at the end of the day it is a drop in the ****ing bucket and it enables tens of millions of people to live with a shred of dignity. Are poor people going to waste cash if you give it to them? Yeah. Are some people going to lose motivation and be sucked into a cycle of dependency? Sure. But if you cut off the benefits so many of those people will just become criminals or drug addicts who ultimately cost society much more. And some recipients and their kids will make their way out.

I mean, for what we spent on an entirely idiotic war in Iraq we could have funded all welfare programs for like three decades. Perspective people.
Exactly. Any honest discussion of "handouts" needs to start with the MIC and other corporate welfare.
05-12-2014 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Sadly, I will admit to having spent a period of time getting worked up about entitlements. But at the end of the day it is a drop in the ****ing bucket and it enables tens of millions of people to live with a shred of dignity. Are poor people going to waste cash if you give it to them? Yeah. Are some people going to lose motivation and be sucked into a cycle of dependency? Sure. But if you cut off the benefits so many of those people will just become criminals or drug addicts who ultimately cost society much more. And some recipients and their kids will make their way out.

I mean, for what we spent on an entirely idiotic war in Iraq we could have funded all welfare programs for like three decades. Perspective people.
This is pretty much how I feel, too.
05-12-2014 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Lol? If Silverman 2 is a libertarian he is indistinguishable from a fly controlled gimmick account devoted to setting up awful straw mans. If this is such a libertarian thing, I'm sure we will see mainstream libertarians in the press talking about it (it isn't and we won't)
05-12-2014 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
This is pretty much how I feel, too.
tritto
05-12-2014 , 09:15 PM
7.5 hours of meetings today!
05-12-2014 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
This is when the cynics, who will invariably be free-market libertarians, show up to let us know "he only came out to make money" and then proceed to explain how this is a bad thing.
You might not know what a libertarian is.
05-12-2014 , 09:36 PM
Clay Aiken now in a neck and neck primary battle with a dead guy.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...ll-family-says

I like the scare quotes in the headline.
05-12-2014 , 09:46 PM
Clay is lucky he is not in MO and his opponent died after the election.
05-12-2014 , 09:54 PM
Oh man those unintentional scare quotes are hilarious.
05-12-2014 , 11:24 PM
lol at considering yourself a libertarian other than wanting derelict drug addicts locked up for being poor.
05-13-2014 , 12:05 AM

      
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