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05-04-2015 , 03:02 PM

#2226

ClarkNasty

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Cops pursue shoot fleeing black man, witnessed by Fox News in Baltimore just now. "In bad shape".

This ends well.

05-04-2015 , 03:05 PM

#2227

ClarkNasty

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Live on Fox.

"I did not hear the officer give instructions" "I did not hear the suspect say anything" "the suspect/victim was running away, the officer was pursuing and fired a single shot and brought him down" "he was clearly running away from the officer"

05-04-2015 , 03:09 PM

#2228

wil318466

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Where does the huge disparity in trust of cops between blacks and other races come from, wil? Do black people not know how badly their own behave with police in order to be complicit in the beatings they take?

I would think their interactions with police are different, obviously. When I was younger I deeply hated cops. Now I don't as much, but I almost never interact with them. I've had one interaction with the police about a year ago, over a cab fare. It didn't go well.

05-04-2015 , 03:13 PM

#2229

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neg3sd

Drive thru the inner city. Then the cops may think you're a drug dealer.

I'm pretty sure rjoe has driven through the inner city. I spent a few years working mostly in the inner city and was never harassed or pulled over by a cop. Worst I got were a couple unjust parking tickets.

05-04-2015 , 03:27 PM

#2230

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This is amazing. Baltimore Police Twitter says no one was shot and they arrested a person despite an eyewitness FOX reporter stating clearly "the victim did not look good", and the person was taken away in an ambulance on camera. FOX forced to cover this due to their person being right there and just acknowledged as much.

05-04-2015 , 03:29 PM

#2231

rjoefish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neg3sd

Drive thru the inner city. Then the cops may think you're a drug dealer.

My job involves me driving around places like the South side of Chicago and Ferguson. I've never been stopped in those areas.

05-04-2015 , 03:32 PM

#2232

rjoefish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wil318466

This entire issue comes down to two scenarios :

1) White cops are racist, therefore they are purposefully out there to arrest/attack/kill black males.

2) Black males react to police officers differently than every other ethnic group in the United States, therefore they are somewhat complicit in their own deaths.

Pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wil318466

You should feel silly, your posts are comical. I never backtracked a thing. It's what I actually said. Police don't go out there and look to murder young black men.

Police have to arrest people. Sometimes that turns into physical confrontations. Sometimes people die. Ensure that it doesn't turn into a physical confrontation.

Judging from this follow up you don't think it can be one. So it has to be two. Don't get all mad at me when you generalize about how a group of people acts then want to backtrack later when you feel your blanket statements are wrong. Even moving to 'vast majority' is still a ridiculous thing to say but racists gonna racist I guess.

05-04-2015 , 03:36 PM

#2233

wil318466

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

So, you don't think black males have a higher incidence of confrontation due to their reactions towards police officers? You don't think their mistrust of the police have something to do with their behavior when confronted by cops? That they were totally docile and they get beat/shot and they did absolutely nothing wrong?

05-04-2015 , 03:36 PM

#2234

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

"Going for the waistband" in the police report -1000

05-04-2015 , 03:41 PM

#2235

seattlelou

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My money is on dropped gun shot himself in the ass.

Last edited by seattlelou; 05-04-2015 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Based on what CNN is reporting

05-04-2015 , 03:43 PM

#2236

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

I did when I just watched it again. I think it translates well enough across the pond and is about as accurate now as it ever was.

https://youtu.be/BO8EpfyCG2Y

okay.

05-04-2015 , 03:43 PM

#2237

rjoefish

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Originally Posted by wil318466

We get it, you think how they're treated by police is their fault. Kid with a toy gun? His fault. Guy running away? His fault. Guy reaching for his ID? His fault. Guy arrested illegally and killed for no reason? Seems a bit too far but probably still his fault, I mean, did you see how he didn't trust those cops?!

05-04-2015 , 03:48 PM

#2238

wil318466

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

I've already said I agree with the guy running away and the Gray case. The others were accidental, or at least can be understood how they happened. But you won't acknowledge that.

05-04-2015 , 03:53 PM

#2239

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Just saw an interview with a Baltimore PD rep saying that it was the suspect's gun that was dropped and fired a shot. Police say nobody was injured, and that the guy was taken to the hospital "as a precaution". I'm looking at a video of him laying facedown on the pavement right now. Weird posture for someone who wasn't injured.

05-04-2015 , 03:55 PM

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rjoefish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wil318466

I've already said I agree with the guy running away and the Gray case. The others were accidental, or at least can be understood how they happened. But you won't acknowledge that.

You're right, I won't acknowledge that a guy who's reaching for his ID, like ordered, is complicit in his shooting.

Or a kid with a toy gun that didn't threaten the officers at all.

Shooting both of people wasn't accidental and I don't need to justify the officer's actions by blaming black people.

05-04-2015 , 03:57 PM

#2241

seattlelou

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Seems easy enough to determine if he got shot.

05-04-2015 , 04:00 PM

#2242

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Yeah I mean it would be a really weird thing for the cops to lie about, unless they're trying to bring in swat or something to protect officers on the scene before breaking the news. But it would also be weird for the guy to pretend to be shot.

05-04-2015 , 04:09 PM

#2243

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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/61897814

So I'm looking at this video, it definitely looks like there's a gunshot wound in this guy's back. It could just be a stain on his shirt or something, but there's a clear dark-ish red spot in the middle of his back.

Am I crazy? Do you guys see this?

05-04-2015 , 04:09 PM

#2244

LastLife

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Looks like there were 2 different situations. Guy was shot in one of them, not by the cops, and another wasn't shot. Though, reporting on this is pretty terrible at the moment.

05-04-2015 , 04:11 PM

#2245

seattlelou

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Fox was on the scene and a woman vehemently believed that the kid did not have a gun and she was certain that a cop shot him in the back. Perception is weird.

05-04-2015 , 04:13 PM

#2246

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Fox was on the scene and a woman vehemently believed that the kid did not have a gun and she was certain that a cop shot him in the back. Perception is weird.

Why is your conclusion that "perception is weird" and not "the cops might have been lying"?

05-04-2015 , 04:14 PM

#2247

rjoefish

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I see the spot but it doesn't look like a gunshot at all to me.

05-04-2015 , 04:15 PM

#2248

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers

Why is your conclusion that "perception is weird" and not "the cops might have been lying"?

trying to lie about a bullet hole in the back seems unlikely.

05-04-2015 , 04:17 PM

#2249

rjoefish

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

trying to lie about a bullet hole in the back seems unlikely.

Yea I don't think they trot the official out there to say he wasn't shot if he was, or with everything else going on doing this if unsure at all. Note they didn't answer if any cops fired though, just that this guy's gun fired when he dropped it.