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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

05-23-2015 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Can you elaborate on how you'd want to include this in the conversation?
...individual x was confronted with a situation in which he feared for his safety and life, as well as the lives and safety of others, and was tasked with making sure innocent people remained unharmed. The situation entailed individuals y and z, who were high on crack, had no regard for the safety of others, and were believed to have been carrying guns. If you're individual x, how do you think you'd feel? Calm and collected? Steady heart rate? These aren't Delta Force Operators, they're street cops. In my opinion he acted appropriately given the context of the situation. But all anyone talks about is the end result: two individuals that were shot many times. In a 2000lb weapon.
05-23-2015 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Can you not read from your phone either?
Invalid open carry is not even a crime for white people. White people can and do tote guns around just like Rice did, face no consequences, and call it "open carry." Trying to define this away is ridiculous.
05-23-2015 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
...individual x was confronted with a situation in which he feared for his safety and life, as well as the lives and safety of others, and was tasked with making sure innocent people remained unharmed. The situation entailed individuals y and z, who were high on crack, had no regard for the safety of others, and were believed to have been carrying guns. If you're individual x, how do you think you'd feel? Calm and collected? Steady heart rate? These aren't Delta Force Operators, they're street cops. In my opinion he acted appropriately given the context of the situation. But all anyone talks about is the end result: two individuals that were shot many times. In a 2000lb weapon.
Haha, yeah, pretty much what I thought. By included in the conversation you meant: "People aren't talking enough about how terrified of black people my parents raised me to be".

Which is weird, of course, because "black dudes are scary" is absolutely included in every conversation about this ****. It's like the second thing that gets brought up. Some libtard is all "Hey so cops killed another unarmed black person", the immediate response is "the cop probably had a good reason(including, apparently, panic)(!!!!), really the black guy did it to himself, he was no angel and also was probably high"


No **** Brelo was angry and scared. Being "49 shots at unarmed people angry and scared" is what he did wrong.

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was tasked with making sure innocent people remained unharmed
He jumped on the hood of a bullet riddled car to empty a clip into the windshield, man.
05-23-2015 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Invalid open carry is not even a crime for white people. White people can and do tote guns around just like Rice did, face no consequences, and call it "open carry." Trying to define this away is ridiculous.
Pointing a gun at people is a crime for white people wookie gtfooh. Be serious.
05-23-2015 , 06:25 PM
ikes how young and how angelic would a dead black kid have to be before you posted sympathetically about them?
05-23-2015 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
ikes how young and how angelic would a dead black kid have to be before you posted sympathetically about them?
I have posted sympathetically about this exact case, but you're incapable of reading so you missed it.
05-23-2015 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Haha, yeah, pretty much what I thought. By included in the conversation you meant: "People aren't talking enough about how terrified of black people my parents raised me to be".

Which is weird, of course, because "black dudes are scary" is absolutely included in every conversation about this ****. It's like the second thing that gets brought up. Some libtard is all "Hey so cops killed another unarmed black person", the immediate response is "the cop probably had a good reason(including, apparently, panic)(!!!!), really the black guy did it to himself, he was no angel and also was probably high"


No **** Brelo was angry and scared. Being "49 shots at unarmed people angry and scared" is what he did wrong.



He jumped on the hood of a bullet riddled car to empty a clip into the windshield, man.
I'm an Infantry officer in the U.S. Army. I'm not scared of black people. I actually laughed out loud at this. And now I'm aware of how shockingly narrow your world view is. You should do some reading. Go out and see the world. Broaden your horizon. I think you'll learn a lot.

And no, I don't believe they deserved to die. But I definitely believe that they brought about their own demise. Don't want to die? Don't put yourself in situations that could very likely lead to your death. Don't make idiotic decisions that have consequences that might include the use of deadly force against you---i.e. - law enforcement putting enough bullets in you to make sure it's impossible for you to continue to pose a threat to those around you. Don't be a criminal.

Wake the **** up. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
05-23-2015 , 07:18 PM
Don't want to die, don't do things idiots will excuse cops extrajudicially executing you for.
05-23-2015 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Pointing a gun at people is a crime for white people wookie gtfooh. Be serious.


Did this guy get arrested?
05-23-2015 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Don't want to die, don't do things idiots will excuse cops extrajudicially executing you for.
I find it great that you're upset more so about the number of shots fired than the fact that they were killed. But that's not as great as your perception of them being "executed". They were killed because they were a threat. Not just to police, but to innocent people. If your 5 year old son had been hit when they reached speeds in excess of 100mph, I wonder how you would feel. As far as your idiot comment: go eat some more leaves you liberal pussy.
05-23-2015 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
And no, I don't believe they deserved to die. But I definitely believe that they brought about their own demise. Don't want to die? Don't put yourself in situations that could very likely lead to your death. Don't make idiotic decisions that have consequences that might include the use of deadly force against you---i.e. - law enforcement putting enough bullets in you to make sure it's impossible for you to continue to pose a threat to those around you. Don't be a criminal.
Wow, haven't seen hot takes like this since wil's "Eric Garner would still be alive if he just didn't resist arrest" posting
05-23-2015 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
They were killed because they were a threat. Not just to police, but to innocent people. If your 5 year old son had been hit when they reached speeds in excess of 100mph, I wonder how you would feel.
Oh man and now we got some #feelings up in this bitch. We'd better just shoot people on sight who are speeding, because they're criminals operating a 2000lb weapon in violation of the law, amirite?
05-23-2015 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Oh man and now we got some #feelings up in this bitch. We'd better just shoot people on sight who are speeding, because they're criminals operating a 2000lb weapon in violation of the law, amirite?
Don't be an ignorant tool. Go read about what happened and why they were killed.
05-23-2015 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer


Did this guy get arrested?
Assuming that he is pointing his gun at another person, that doesn't change dick about whether or not it's illegal. I haven't said that whites and blacks are treated completely equally. You guys are jumping the shark.
05-23-2015 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Assuming that he is pointing his gun at another person, that doesn't change dick about whether or not it's illegal. I haven't said that whites and blacks are treated completely equally. You guys are jumping the shark.
Did you think that Wookie was literally suggesting the actual law changes based on your race? Is that how bad at understanding posts you are?
05-23-2015 , 07:55 PM
No I think he and you are treating my position as if I think whites and blacks are treated the same when I explicitly say otherwise. You guys are clueless.
05-23-2015 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
I'm an Infantry officer in the U.S. Army.
I'd love to hear you they those words to the widows and children of the thousands of your fellow soldiers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan:

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Originally Posted by Prolific528
But I definitely believe that they brought about their own demise. Don't want to die? Don't put yourself in situations that could very likely lead to your death. Don't make idiotic decisions that have consequences that might include the use of deadly force against you. (...) Wake the **** up. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
That will go over well. I am sure.
05-23-2015 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
I'm an Infantry officer in the U.S. Army. I'm not scared of black people. I actually laughed out loud at this. And now I'm aware of how shockingly narrow your world view is. You should do some reading. Go out and see the world. Broaden your horizon. I think you'll learn a lot.
Uh, OK, for one thing, I didn't need to join America's Redneck Employer of Last Resort to see the world. And I have done some reading in my time. I have pretty broad horizons, as those things go.

What the **** are you talking about?


My worldview is "shockingly narrow" because I'm not sympathetic enough to a cop who shot two unarmed people to death because he was scared? What book do I need to read that I skipped that explains this ****?

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And no, I don't believe they deserved to die. But I definitely believe that they brought about their own demise. Don't want to die? Don't put yourself in situations that could very likely lead to your death. Don't make idiotic decisions that have consequences that might include the use of deadly force against you---i.e. - law enforcement putting enough bullets in you to make sure it's impossible for you to continue to pose a threat to those around you. Don't be a criminal.

Wake the **** up. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
LOL this dude lasted all of one post between the passive-aggressive "should we include how scared Brelo was in the conversation, maybe?" into "YES THEY DESERVED TO DIE AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL".

What is up with racists being completely unwilling to stay in character? We see this **** over and over again. 0 to advocating for extrajudicial executions for running from the cops real quick.
05-23-2015 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
I'd love to hear you they those words to the widows and children of the thousands of your fellow soldiers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan:



That will go over well. I am sure.
What the **** are you even talking about?
05-23-2015 , 08:29 PM
Our man here is all over the hypothetical feelings of a parent of a 5 year old injured during the chase, but somewhat more sanguine about the actual feelings of the actual relatives of the people who got shot to actual death.
05-23-2015 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
I'm an Infantry officer in the U.S. Army. I'm not scared of black people. I actually laughed out loud at this. And now I'm aware of how shockingly narrow your world view is. You should do some reading. Go out and see the world. Broaden your horizon. I think you'll learn a lot.

And no, I don't believe they deserved to die. But I definitely believe that they brought about their own demise. Don't want to die? Don't put yourself in situations that could very likely lead to your death. Don't make idiotic decisions that have consequences that might include the use of deadly force against you---i.e. - law enforcement putting enough bullets in you to make sure it's impossible for you to continue to pose a threat to those around you. Don't be a criminal.

Wake the **** up. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
Wait, so you don't believe they deserved to die, but they made a bad choice so they deserved it?

Last edited by ALLTheCookies; 05-23-2015 at 08:38 PM.
05-23-2015 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolific528
What the **** are you even talking about?
I believe he's wondering how your "Don't want to die? Don't put yourself in situations that could very likely lead to your death" speech would go over with families of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
05-23-2015 , 08:34 PM
Also it is abundantly clear that Prolific here has no idea the facts of the chase that ended with the shooting in question.
05-23-2015 , 08:37 PM
Just in case anyone is behind:
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What led to the deaths of Russell and Williams, prosecutors said, was a chase that began when a car driven by Russell backfired -- a noise that officers mistakenly thought was caused by gunshots -- in Cleveland on November 29, 2012.

It turned out that neither Russell, 43, nor Williams, 30, were armed, but Russell led numerous police officers on a 22-mile chase -- sometimes at speeds above 100 mph -- before ramming a police car in a middle school parking lot in East Cleveland, police said.

Brelo and 12 other officers fired more than 100 times in eight seconds at the car, after which, according to prosecutors, the pair could no longer be a threat.

But Brelo exited his car, got on top of Williams' car's hood and "fired at least 15 shots ... downward through the windshield into the victims at close range as he stood on the hood of Mr. Russell's car," Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Timothy McGlinty said.
A car driven by a black dude backfired so they chased him for NO REASON, pinned the car in(this whole "2000lb weapon" thing is something he's retroactively coming up with, also cars generally weigh a lot more than that), and then shot the **** out of it.
05-23-2015 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Invalid open carry is not even a crime for white people. White people can and do tote guns around just like Rice did, face no consequences, and call it "open carry." Trying to define this away is ridiculous.
Incorrect. Brandishing a pistol is a crime white or black. Open carry and brandishing are entirely different things

      
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