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And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

10-22-2012 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
Thanks for getting the point.
The whole point of ZOMG ASTROTURFING is to laugh at suzzer's conspiratarding.
10-22-2012 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
Just out of curiousity, what do you think Mitt is going to do to make this country better?

Still waiting for someone to explain to me which loopholes he is planning on closing in order to lower the nat. def. by $5 trillion.
First off he's going to be willing to work with the other side for the benefit of the country. Something the current administration has not been willing to do.

As for the loop holes, unless you make more than 250k it's not going to matter to you (there will be no change in your deductions). If you make more than that you are going to be able to pick which deductions you chose to take up to a certain $ amount.

Then he's going to make it a more biz friendly environment. The current pres has a "war" on the wealthy and job creators. Mitten's is also for developing our natural resources (coal, natural gas & oil). These sectors are traditionally good paying jobs. This will result in more people working, more people paying taxes, less people requiring Gov. services. This in of itself will lower the debt/deficit.

Last edited by raradevils; 10-22-2012 at 11:52 AM. Reason: haters rip it apart now.....
10-22-2012 , 11:51 AM
lol lou
10-22-2012 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
First off he's going to be willing to work with the other side for the benefit of the country. Something the current administration has not been willing to do.
First person I've encountered who I think actually believes this.
10-22-2012 , 11:52 AM
lol rara

Last edited by Vecernicek; 10-22-2012 at 11:54 AM. Reason: I could get used to this. 60K here I come!
10-22-2012 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
First person I've encountered who I think actually believes this.
You need to broaden your circle of friends then. He needed to do this in Mass to get anything there accomplished.
10-22-2012 , 11:56 AM
from kos

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Here are the numbers for the absentee ballot requests:

Dems 224,676 (45.28%)
Reps 152,877 (30.81%)
Inds 118,124 (23.80%)
Oth 548 (negligible)

TOTAL 496,225

Here are the new ballot requests since the last report:

Dems +6,712
Reps +5,765
Inds +5,993

This is the fifth straight report in which Democrats outstripped Republicans in absentee ballot requests. In this report, we lead ballot requests by about 950. In the last report, we led in ballot requests by about 600. Two reports ago, we led by only 300. This is a positive trend.

And now, here are the numbers for actual ballots cast:

Dems 155,089 (48.07%)
Reps 99,680 (30.89%)
Inds 67,553 (20.94%)
Oth 342 (negligible)

TOTAL 322,664

Here are the ballots cast since the previous daily report:

Dems +7,855
Reps +7,608
Inds +5,720

Republicans got within about 200 ballots of Democrats three reports ago. Two reports ago, Democrats bested them by over 300. In the last report, Democrats cast about 800 more ballots than Republicans. But in this report, Democrats are ahead by only about 250 ballots cast. But it warrants repeating that Democrats have cast more ballots than Republicans in every single daily report since early voting began.
10-22-2012 , 11:56 AM
Intrade crashing.

Obama about to dip below 60 again.
10-22-2012 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
Your tax math is completely wrong. If you take the standard deduction (i.e. the 11,400 for a family) you can't just add on the your itemized deductions on top of that. So no, an average family of 4 is not going to be affected by a $25,000 cap on deductions.
LOL you get ALL that as a standard deduction plus, under current rules you CAN deduct mortage on a short for.

As to "rental" (I know, I do it myself) you can do a long form WITHOUT itemizing and deduct all expenses on rental including taxes, interest and repairs.

obg
10-22-2012 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
You need to broaden your circle of friends then. He needed to do this in Mass to get anything there accomplished.
No he didn't. The Dems just overrode nearly every single one of his vetoes. They didn't have to work with him to get stuff done.
10-22-2012 , 12:03 PM
That's laughably false rjoe, but the irony is that the work romney did with dems in mass was an albatross around romney's neck during the primary.
10-22-2012 , 12:04 PM
intrade, wonder if i am missing a poll or they just love them some RAS CO. guess that the politico battle ground mitt by 2, even overall, is good for mitt. seems like OH +5 Q should trump all. plus PA poll shows that to be the 10% pipe dream that Nate has.
10-22-2012 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
That's laughably false rjoe, but the irony is that the work romney did with dems in mass was an albatross around romney's neck during the primary.
lolque.jpg?

Romney had like 800 vetoes and over 700 were over ridden. The Dem legislature could easily push through stuff on it's own with '87% of the seats'.

I'm not saying he didn't work with them on some stuff, just that they could easily go around him and did on many many occasions when he didn't want to work with them.
10-22-2012 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
You need to broaden your circle of friends then. He needed to do this in Mass to get anything there accomplished.
I'm laughing at both parts of your assertion, including the claim that Obama refused to work with the GOP.
10-22-2012 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
lolque.jpg?

Romney had like 800 vetoes and over 700 were over ridden. The Dem legislature could easily push through stuff on it's own with '87% of the seats'.
And yet they worked with Romney on his signature achievement. Saying Romney didn't work with dems at all in Mass is just wrong. The funny part is that resulted in a bunch of stuff rara disagrees strongly with.
10-22-2012 , 12:07 PM
see my edit
10-22-2012 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
I'm laughing at both parts of your assertion, including the claim that Obama refused to work with the GOP.
Show me where he was willing to work with the GOP in the 1st 2 years of his pres?
10-22-2012 , 12:09 PM
Obama pretty obviously worked with Boehner on the debt ceiling debacle.
10-22-2012 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
see my edit
Then your post is a non sequitur.
10-22-2012 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vecernicek
Intrade crashing.

Obama about to dip below 60 again.
OH contract at 55(O)/45, about a 10 percent drop.
10-22-2012 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Show me where he was willing to work with the GOP in the 1st 2 years of his pres?
The first bill he signed passed the Senate 72-23 :P
10-22-2012 , 12:11 PM
I never got why Republicans call it a "business friendly environment" when it should be a "market friendly environment". "Business friendly" implies giving in to already entrenched businesses while "market friendly" puts the emphasis on creating an even playing field to serve the common good
10-22-2012 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Then your post is a non sequitur.
He said Romney had to work with the Dems to get 'anything accomplished'. That's not true. Sure he worked with them to put his touches on some things but it wasn't a requirement at all, which is what he seemed to be saying.
10-22-2012 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
First off he's going to be willing to work with the other side for the benefit of the country. Something the current administration has not been willing to do.

As for the loop holes, unless you make more than 250k it's not going to matter to you (there will be no change in your deductions). If you make more than that you are going to be able to pick which deductions you chose to take up to a certain $ amount.

Then he's going to make it a more biz friendly environment. The current pres has a "war" on the wealthy and job creators. Mitten's is also for developing our natural resources (coal, natural gas & oil). These sectors are traditionally good paying jobs. This will result in more people working, more people paying taxes, less people requiring Gov. services. This in of itself will lower the debt/deficit.
1.LMAO. Really? Your party tows the line of saying "Whatever happens, we need to make sure Obama is a one term president." and you blame it on Obama? GTFO.

2. So unless I make more than $250K, just trust what Mitt is selling? Don't question it? LMAO. OK.
10-22-2012 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Show me where he was willing to work with the GOP in the 1st 2 years of his pres?
Were you alive during the debate over health care? He repeatedly contorted himself to try to get the support of the (dwindling number of) moderate republicans.

But the greater point is that the GOP slammed the door in his face from day one. If you want to complain about the lack of cooperation, it's ridiculous to blame Obama more than the congressional GOP.

      
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