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10-12-2012 , 02:16 PM
I think republicans everywhere are extremely grateful for what Nader has done for their cause in the past and so they are nice to him.
10-12-2012 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jb9
I think republicans everywhere are extremely grateful for what Nader has done for their cause in the past and so they are nice to him.
True

Ironic that the only progressive figure in politics today also essentially gave Bush the election in 2000 (and turned the country into a super-conservative place)
10-12-2012 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondogarage
That you actually consider an interview with a sitting president an "opinion piece", says everything that ever needs to be said about you.
Is Letterman a news show?
10-12-2012 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by antneye

You will lose this election, and instead of evaluating why and making adjustments, you will chalk it up to poor uneducated white folks who are too dumb to understand why you are so right on all of the issues.
This is really rich coming from a Republican. Please explain how the Republicans adjusted their platform after losing the White House in 2008.

Republican hang on like grim death to losing social issues. Is there any doubt that Republicans are on the wrong side of history on abortion, gay marriage, immigration, and any number of other things.
10-12-2012 , 02:45 PM
ok some good news: ralstons nv blog

The Democrats now have a larger voter registration edge over Republicans in populous Clark County than in 2008, when the party swept to top-to-bottom victories.

The numbers continue to make Mitt Romney's path to victory very difficult and Dean Heller's road to a full Senate term quite problematic. Barack Obama won Clark by 19 percentage points in 2008 en route to a smashing 12-point statewide win. I doubt he'll do that this cycle, but if he wins by 12 to 14, he will win the state pretty easily.

The latest Clark County numbers show the Democrats now have a 125,441-voter lead. It was 125,218 in '08. Considering how different the world is -- not so hopey and changey -- that is remarkable.

The statewide edge, as of yesterday, is a little more than 86,000. And they are still counting thousands of new registrations in Clark
10-12-2012 , 02:50 PM
has anybody seen palin lately? i did on a you tube of a fox appearance. she has gotten worse and not even hot anymore. said it before, as a party u cant nominate sarah palin to be a heartbeat away and then ask to run for anything, president, dog catcher, w/e for 47 years and 3 months. that is the penalty.
10-12-2012 , 02:54 PM
just turn out the vote in nv, last i heard the nv gop is all ron paul fans, they dont even dig mitt, so it should be easy to out pace em. plus latinos gotta hate mitt the polls are like 75-25, i dont think the regular polls reach the latino population because they always call during sabado gigante or somethin
10-12-2012 , 02:55 PM
yeah, she's fallen off pretty badly. women gonna age
10-12-2012 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
This is really rich coming from a Republican. Please explain how the Republicans adjusted their platform after losing the White House in 2008.

Republican hang on like grim death to losing social issues. Is there any doubt that Republicans are on the wrong side of history on abortion, gay marriage, immigration, and any number of other things.
Most of those issues you speak of are pretty much 50/50 issues in this country. Another example of "I am on this side so the other side must be wrong"

Keep digging....you may get to China if you keep it up.

btw: I could care less on most of those issues, with the exception of "illegal" immigration (somehow Dems always seem to drop the word "illegal" as if Republicans are against immigration, )
10-12-2012 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Is Letterman a news show?
Moreso than anything coming out of the FOX News studios save Shep Smith.
10-12-2012 , 03:08 PM
Day 4: Oct. 12, 2012 the ibd tracker
Obama: +0.7
Obama 46.4% | Romney 45.7%


these guys had it, i think, +5 mitt out of the gate, and now its day 4. so at least it is reflecting a waning of the mitt post debate bounce of last thurs - sat. as i said, gallup will show this soon as well imo. plus gallup changed their methodology lately, less white folks. think it shows how bad the polling outfits are that they change mid election **** like this.
10-12-2012 , 03:15 PM
i also think -1 in ras a few weeks out is still +1 for obama. ras gets more accurate the week before i think anyways. they are rigged to create a narrative imo but need to be somewhat close on election day. i dont have the stats to back this up, just what i think based on being anatta and having diamond sharp wisdom in all things.

and gallups lv model seems to add five for mitt from rv. nate is more of the 2.5. and i think it will be less in swing states as the get out vote will give some help to barry getting the lazy ones out. so if down 2 in gallup lv now, then its prolly +3 rv for barry and bout even. and its gonna shift to barry once thurs fri sat fall off (remember sunday huge for barry) so daily tracker viewed in this light not too bad imo.
10-12-2012 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by antneye
Most of those issues you speak of are pretty much 50/50 issues in this country. Another example of "I am on this side so the other side must be wrong"

Keep digging....you may get to China if you keep it up.

btw: I could care less on most of those issues, with the exception of "illegal" immigration (somehow Dems always seem to drop the word "illegal" as if Republicans are against immigration, )
Just because 50% of a group agree with something doesnt make it valid.

The Republicans are flat out wrong on every legislative approach to every single social issue.

Like, they have the right to think abortion is wrong and gay peoples shouldnt marry - but they are objectively wrong to try and limit abortions or stop gay marriage from being fully legalised. Objectively and clearly wrong. Its not even debatable.
10-12-2012 , 03:20 PM
Small government crowd wants to use government to ban things their church leaders tell them not to like.

Sometimes I don't get this world.
10-12-2012 , 03:30 PM
correction the ibd poll day one was +2 for mitt and then plus 3 for mitt day 2 its a 4 point swing to barry over 3 days
10-12-2012 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Just because 50% of a group agree with something doesnt make it valid.

The Republicans are flat out wrong on every legislative approach to every single social issue.

Like, they have the right to think abortion is wrong and gay peoples shouldnt marry - but they are objectively wrong to try and limit abortions or stop gay marriage from being fully legalised. Objectively and clearly wrong. Its not even debatable.
Is this for real?
10-12-2012 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan C. Lawhon
Best Strategy For Upcoming "Town Hall" Debate

.................
Obama's best strategy for this town hall type debate may be to avoid getting too directly confrontational with Romney and concentrate instead on the Bill Clinton "I feel your pain" type approach with people in the audience. Of course, at the same time that he's "feeling their pain," he'll be hoping and praying that Mitt Romney sticks his foot in his mouth and commits another whopper.

The smart move for Obama Tuesday night may be to let the rope out and hope Mitt Romney hangs himself. Save the "tough stuff" for the final debate - if necessary. Mitt Romney's best strategy will be to try real hard not to put his foot in his mouth and try to come across like he's a real human being. Coming across like a real person is a tough job for a guy who has a $12 million dollar house with a car elevator and bank accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands; but Mitt will have to do the best he can.

It may work for romney a bit, but he has to walk that line delicatly and it could come off awkward.... it is hard for down home Joe public to relate to rich peeps.....

This coming Tuesday night could be really interesting. The first two debates have been warm-ups for the spectacle to come.
Re the bolded.... I think this is not a good move..... obama is not a down home kinda guy like Clinton, and throw in the fact that a sizeable chunk of America holds obama at least partially responsible for their pain it will come of very odd and out of touch. Clinton did that as a challenger, obama has now had 4 years and econ numbers are still quite ****ty..... it is hard to say I'm gonna make it better, when that is gonna leave the audience thinking "WTF have you been doing tha last 4 years?"
10-12-2012 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Just because 50% of a group agree with something doesnt make it valid.

The Republicans are flat out wrong on every legislative approach to every single social issue.
Thanks for proving my point that Democrats feel that they are correct on everything and everyone else is wrong.

LOL @ ignoring the fact that 50% of the population disagrees with you. 50/50 tells me that the populace is divided on an issue. You see it as meaning 50% of the populace are uneducated fools.
10-12-2012 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Just because 50% of a group agree with something doesnt make it valid.

The Republicans are flat out wrong on every legislative approach to every single social issue.

Like, they have the right to think abortion is wrong and gay peoples shouldnt marry - but they are objectively wrong to try and limit abortions or stop gay marriage from being fully legalised. Objectively and clearly wrong. Its not even debatable.
I always like this one. Liberals are anti war yet they wage war on the unborn.

Last edited by raradevils; 10-12-2012 at 03:49 PM. Reason: I have 2 sons that were born pre-mature.....25 years ago and are still doing fine.
10-12-2012 , 03:53 PM
Liberals- Waging war on the unborn since 1973

Last edited by Bdidd; 10-12-2012 at 03:54 PM. Reason: some segments of the populace seem to wage war on common sense on the daily
10-12-2012 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jb9
I think republicans everywhere are extremely grateful for what Nader has done for their cause in the past and so they are nice to him.
100,000 dead Iraqis take the opposite view.
10-12-2012 , 03:55 PM
Conservatives- yearning for the days of the coat hanger abortionists since 1973

Last edited by Bdidd; 10-12-2012 at 03:56 PM. Reason: until their own family/mistress gets pregnant, then exceptions are made
10-12-2012 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
lol at comparing a debate for VP and an opinion piece on a news channel.
An interview w/ a president on tv is an opinion piece?

I don't even give a **** about who was interrupted. I'm just pointing out that it was pretty funny of FOX to bitch about something being done when they do the same thing themselves.

Fair and Balanced!
10-12-2012 , 03:57 PM
so as long as half the population supports something, that thing cannot, by definition, be objectively wrong or evil? I know you guys don't really want to go down that road.
10-12-2012 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by antneye
Thanks for proving my point that Democrats feel that they are correct on everything and everyone else is wrong.

LOL @ ignoring the fact that 50% of the population disagrees with you. 50/50 tells me that the populace is divided on an issue. You see it as meaning 50% of the populace are uneducated fools.

So, it seems right to you to make the other 50% of the population live their life according to laws dictated by your religious beliefs? Wouldn't it make more sense to have the default be freedom and if people want to live their life according to their religious principles they can?

      
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