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10-12-2012 , 12:13 PM
yea buddy bringing the verbatim regurgitated talking points hot fire. Impressive.
10-12-2012 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
Are you referring to them just not doing polls anymore?
No, they pulled out of Fl, NC & Va because they have it in Mittens column.

Why is it according to Real Clear that Obama only has a lock on 37 EC votes while Mittens has 74?
10-12-2012 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
No, they pulled out of Fl, NC & Va because they have it in Mittens column.

Why is it according to Real Clear that Obama only has a lock on 37 EC votes while Mittens has 74?
do you really not know the answer to this?
10-12-2012 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
No, they pulled out of Fl, NC & Va because they have it in Mittens column.

Why is it according to Real Clear that Obama only has a lock on 37 EC votes while Mittens has 74?
If by no you mean yes to what I just said? They're not doing any polls there because the president hasn't gotten over 47% which seems like a very dubious position to take considering Mitt hasn't been over that mark either AFAIK (in their polls). Even other pollsters aren't quite sure why they're doing that, it seems a bit silly to me but whatever.

As for RC it has Obama with 201 and Romney with 181 so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.

Edit: Oh, I see, you're talking about their break down in the 'Toss Up'/Likely column. Don't think that's really a great talking point for the GOP that Texas is not included in the super lock column for Romney but whatever, I still don't get what your point is.
10-12-2012 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunchyBlack


context, how does it work
i see that you don't have a firm grasp. 7.8% is not a good number.
10-12-2012 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
i see that you don't have a firm grasp. 7.8% is not a good number.
what would a good number be, and how would have a McCain admin have gotten there? how would a Romney admin get there?

"7.8% is not a good nubmer" is a statement without any meaning
10-12-2012 , 12:22 PM
confusing graph seems to indicate that before obama took office the umployment rate was rising dramatically and then before he had a chance to enact any programs the unemployment rate still rose at a crazy rate and then once he did get his programs running, pretty quickly it leveled off and then fell. well that cant be right cuz things are just horrible other than the stock market car industry labor market and ending wars and keeping the homeland safe by decimating the enemy what gives?
10-12-2012 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunchyBlack
what would a good number be, and how would have a McCain admin have gotten there? how would a Romney admin get there?

"7.8% is not a good nubmer" is a statement without any meaning
Go back up, read my posts. Take a deep breath. Come back.
10-12-2012 , 12:25 PM
I guess if you're coming from an "easiest recession ever" mindset, the things you are saying do make some sense. touche sir
10-12-2012 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunchyBlack
I guess if you're coming from an "easiest recession ever" mindset, the things you are saying do make some sense. touche sir
deep breaths bro:

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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Look, I don't buy the blame Obama (or Bush for that matter) for the economy, but using the 7.8% number as good is completely ******ed.
10-12-2012 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
If by no you mean yes to what I just said? They're not doing any polls there because the president hasn't gotten over 47% which seems like a very dubious position to take considering Mitt hasn't been over that mark either AFAIK (in their polls). Even other pollsters aren't quite sure why they're doing that, it seems a bit silly to me but whatever.

As for RC it has Obama with 201 and Romney with 181 so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.

Edit: Oh, I see, you're talking about their break down in the 'Toss Up'/Likely column. Don't think that's really a great talking point for the GOP that Texas is not included in the super lock column for Romney but whatever, I still don't get what your point is.

Texas is a lock for Mittens. Unless of course I can't read a map.
10-12-2012 , 12:28 PM
Right, I know you aren't partisan and are just expressing concern. Why don't you think 7.8% is a good number?
10-12-2012 , 12:28 PM
There's no doubt he'll win it but it's not in the super red category.



It's being counted as that '74' number you just mentioned. Again, I don't get your point there, care to explain?
10-12-2012 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunchyBlack
what would a good number be, and how would have a McCain admin have gotten there? how would a Romney admin get there?

"7.8% is not a good nubmer" is a statement without any meaning
Its not the number you'd expect to associate with a healthy economy.

I agree completely with you. The 7.8% number is not useful when evaluating this administrations performance (although sub 8% helps politically obviously).
10-12-2012 , 12:29 PM
btw i assume my comrades here got the latest email from the central office u know when bls calls answer yes to questions 1-5.
10-12-2012 , 12:30 PM
Take the derivative of that UE graph and you can see clearly that things are indeed improving.
10-12-2012 , 12:30 PM
So much lol ikes. The point of 7.8 isn't that it's great news for the economy nearly as much that it was somewhat good/not bad news for Obama inasmuch as bad numbers post debate would have been another negative that week.

And of course while it's not a reflection of some major turnaround it is a positive sign. It's amusing to see y'all attempt to ignore that and spin so hard the other way instead of making more reasonable objections to some of the dems over reacting.
10-12-2012 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
So much lol ikes. The point of 7.8 isn't that it's great news for the economy nearly as much that it was somewhat good/not bad news for Obama inasmuch as bad numbers post debate would have been another negative that week.

And of course while it's not a reflection of some major turnaround it is a positive sign. It's amusing to see y'all attempt to ignore that and spin so hard the other way instead of making more reasonable objections to some of the dems over reacting.
I realize dids is going to dids, but you don't get to rewrite other people's posts. According to einbert, the economy is booming and 7.8% is a great number. Try again.
10-12-2012 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
I realize dids is going to dids, but you don't get to rewrite other people's posts. According to einbert, the economy is booming and 7.8% is a great number. Try again.
Actually I explicitly said the economy is not booming. 7.8% is a good number in context and I think you know that. Context matters, facts matter.

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Originally Posted by einbert
You GOP reality haters can go on and on with your strawman that I think the economy is booming and there are two cars in every driveway. I know it is tough out there, in my own small town the city council has decided to make it a retirement haven so they are refusing new industries left and right. Anyone that works in town basically makes less than ten an hour. A lot of people don't have money to commute. I know how tough it is.
10-12-2012 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
There's no doubt he'll win it but it's not in the super red category.



It's being counted as that '74' number you just mentioned. Again, I don't get your point there, care to explain?
Sure, shouldn't Obama have more in his column? I mean he's the president. Look at all the toss ups? This is just terrible news for Obama. Everything seems to be moving away from Obama. I'm not saying Mittens is going to win all the toss ups, it's just not looking good for Obama.
10-12-2012 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Actually I explicitly said the economy is not booming. 7.8% is a good number in context and I think you know that. Context matters, facts matter.
Except that for how a typical voter acts, 7.8% is not a good number. In the context of Obamas general election hopes, it's obviously a bad number.
10-12-2012 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lagdonk

Your guys have nothing.
Except a lead in just about every major, nationwide poll out right now.
10-12-2012 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yea buddy
Except a lead in just about every major, nationwide poll out right now.
Free market not reflecting a Romney lead. I thought the free market solved everything?
10-12-2012 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Free market not reflecting a Romney lead. I thought the free market solved everything?
free market thinks obama will pull back, romney has a lead from all the evidence we can gather atm.
10-12-2012 , 12:46 PM
markets pricing in the sustained bump from the awesome unemployment numbers probably

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