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37 32.17%
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10-07-2013 , 10:40 PM
There are 7 billion people on the planet. If you don't think that millions of people will die as the result of dropping an atom bomb on the worlds economy you are the one who has drunk the kool aid.
10-07-2013 , 10:42 PM
A million people is 1/7000th of the world's population.
10-07-2013 , 10:44 PM
Maple, the Republicans are already doing a wonderful job making themselves look like ****heads. Please just let them keep doing it to themselves
10-07-2013 , 10:46 PM
10-07-2013 , 10:53 PM
wtf is going on itt??
10-07-2013 , 10:56 PM
Treason and terrorism
10-07-2013 , 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Harry Reid has never done anything similar. House GOP behavior since Obama's election is almost unprecedented, only mid-19th century Southern Democrats compare.

Maple, the actual answer to your question is Article 1, Section 6.


The remedy against Boehner is at the ballot box, we do not criminalize incompetence by politicians.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/republ...215801997.html

Basically they are representing their constituents, the issue is with the GOP base. It's not like Boehner et al are doing this for kicks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lFyFJeZSY

Why would we want to help one kid with cancer. Harry Reid all he has to do is pass a bill. The guy is a fraud. He won't open the national parks for the sole reason he can use his propaganda machines to spin debate. This spin can only occur if Reid keeps everything closed. If he allows the national parks to open the republicans will get credit. He is a trashy deceiving hypocrite.

Clinton the wife cheater is their moral leader.

End the Income Tax (we can replace it with a 80% sales tax as the only tax)
End K-12 education
End student loans.
End the Fed
Raise government interest rates to 20% (SBA lonas, fannie freddie).

vote tea, it is the only hope.

Last edited by steelhouse; 10-07-2013 at 11:14 PM.
10-07-2013 , 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MapleStreet
There are 7 billion people on the planet. If you don't think that millions of people will die as the result of dropping an atom bomb on the worlds economy you are the one who has drunk the kool aid.
Please be specific and give a cogent cascading series of events that will result in millions of dead people due to the Speaker's action/inaction.
10-07-2013 , 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
Treason and terrorism
Shouldn't be surprised with the ******ed hostage taking language used itt for the past week.
10-07-2013 , 11:10 PM
Good thing we aren't using target lists with crosshairs!
10-07-2013 , 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
Shouldn't be surprised with the ******ed hostage taking language used itt for the past week.
lol the "Obama used inappropriate language!" is the only chicken you've got to ****, you've been at it like a champ, and no one is biting the obvious trollbait.

It's just like the Giffords thing! Except, you know, without people getting shot in the head and all.
10-07-2013 , 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vercingetorix1114
Please be specific and give a cogent cascading series of events that will result in millions of dead people due to the Speaker's action/inaction.
Jesus Christ really? The current estimates are that around 50,000 people die every year in America alone because of a lack of available medical care. You actually need me to explain to you how dropping an atomic bomb on the global economy will result in people dying? Really? Really?
10-07-2013 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
Shouldn't be surprised with the ******ed hostage taking language used itt for the past week.
This exactly what you are doing. You are shutting down the government and then cherry picking the parts of it that you like and are willing to allow to exist all the while claiming to be the only honest negotiating party in the mix. How is that not hostage taking?
10-07-2013 , 11:18 PM
lol did ikes just get handed personal responsibility for shutting the govt. down?

10-07-2013 , 11:20 PM
if the admins refuse to fund 2+2 can we shut down the steelhaus?
10-07-2013 , 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelhouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lFyFJeZSY

Why would we want to help one kid with cancer. Harry Reid all he has to do is pass a bill. The guy is a fraud. He won't open the national parks for the sole reason he can use his propaganda machines to spin debate. This spin can only occur if Reid keeps everything closed. If he allows the national parks to open the republicans will get credit. He is a trashy deceiving hypocrite.

Clinton the wife cheater is their moral leader.

End the Income Tax (we can replace it with a 80% sales tax as the only tax)
End K-12 education
End student loans.
End the Fed
Raise government interest rates to 20% (SBA lonas, fannie freddie).

vote tea, it is the only hope.
the 5 of these (6 if you count "vote tea") are the stupidest ideas i've ever heard, bar none.
10-07-2013 , 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
lol did ikes just get handed personal responsibility for shutting the govt. down?]
But Obama used the word "hostage" to describe Republicans shutting down the government and it's soooo inappropriate and oh lawdy my precious nerves someone hand me some ice water, I may have a case of the vapors coming on!

10-07-2013 , 11:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MapleStreet
Jesus Christ really? The current estimates are that around 50,000 people die every year in America alone because of a lack of available medical care. You actually need me to explain to you how dropping an atomic bomb on the global economy will result in people dying? Really? Really?

Jesus Christ, really!

Also a cite is necessary how 50,000 die in Amerika due to"lack of available healthcare". Is Amerika a healthcare food desert? I see 3 hospitals around every other block that must treat people.

And what is this "atomic bomb" of which you speak. Specifics please.
10-07-2013 , 11:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vercingetorix1114
Jesus Christ, really!

Also a cite is necessary how 50,000 die in Amerika due to"lack of available healthcare". Is Amerika a healthcare food desert? I see 3 hospitals around every other block that must treat people.

And what is this "atomic bomb" of which you speak. Specifics please.
Quick question:

You get cancer and don't have healthcare how do you not die?

[hint:hospital does not just let you move in and treat you forever]
10-08-2013 , 12:03 AM
Your post would be funny if it were not for the sad truth that there are actually elected Republicans who keep saying that the Treasury can't just pay it's bills as revenue comes in while prioritizing certain payments despite the fact that the Treasury department is telling them that this is literally impossible the way the current system is setup.

These rednecks have absolutely no clue what they are talking about yet continue to insist upon it when all the bipartisan experts tell them that they are completely clueless. It is truly terrifying that so many elected officials are immune to reality. They just aren't buying it. The scenario they created in their tiny little brain is more palatable.

You can have your own opinions you can't have your own facts.
10-08-2013 , 12:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by markksman
Quick question:

You get cancer and don't have healthcare how do you not die?

[hint:hospital does not just let you move in and treat you forever]
Like Ron Paul says, back in the old days you would just get cancer and go to a church and they would take care of you. No one was ever turned away. Now lets get rid of medicare and medicaid.
10-08-2013 , 12:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Harry Reid has never done anything similar. House GOP behavior since Obama's election is almost unprecedented, only mid-19th century Southern Democrats compare.

Maple, the actual answer to your question is Article 1, Section 6.


The remedy against Boehner is at the ballot box, we do not criminalize incompetence by politicians.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/republ...215801997.html

Basically they are representing their constituents, the issue is with the GOP base. It's not like Boehner et al are doing this for kicks.
Holy cows that ride mo-peds, I agree with FLY!!!

The people of the United States decided to make their representatives Republican. This was mostly due to the passage of Obamacare, and to a lesser extent, massive spending over all.

It was the will of the American people to put the power of the purse in the hands of the republican party.

It is the resposibility of the President to realize this and come to a negotiated agreement, just as it is the house of representatives resposibility to negotiate with the President, and conference with the senate.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/debtlimit.asp

That is Obama in 2006. What can you say? Obama says that vote was just political. Just like "closing" a part of the ocean or chaining parking areas on national property is just a political move. It is also a political move not to negotiate with the peoples' representatives. It is all political, all the time with Obama because he either doesn't understand, or does not have the capacity to be an executive.
10-08-2013 , 12:14 AM
Tell Boehner to let the House vote on the clean bill then.
10-08-2013 , 12:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by peetar69
It is the resposibility of the President to realize this and come to a negotiated agreement, just as it is the house of representatives resposibility to negotiate with the President, and conference with the senate.
Wait, where is this in the constitution?

I could just as easily phrase this as: the president has veto power and Boehner has the responsibility to pass legislation that won't get vetoed by the President (or else have enough support to override the veto).
10-08-2013 , 12:15 AM
Do not understand why using a spending bill or debt ceiling raise CANNOT be used as a negotiating tool? If this is the case, then either party can hold the other party hostage literally 100% of the time. The Democrats should immediately demand an immigration bill and that all drugs be legalized and a highest marginal tax rate of 90%. Do you really not understand why the country cannot function if you are going to hold it hostage and make demands to simply allow the government to function? Really? Really?

      
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