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The GOP war on voting The GOP war on voting

06-08-2016 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
republicans super into pre-crime prevention, ldo
Minority Report II - Voter Fraud
06-08-2016 , 03:56 PM
1974 isn't ancient history jerk.
06-08-2016 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I have a hard time believing that it's not unconstitutional to deny voting rights to someone who has done time in any way, but I'm sure some right ****wad federal judge decided somewhere along the way that it's perfectly fine so idk
It's a Jim Crow holdover that's been around long enough that people can pretend like it's sole purpose is something other than keeping black people from voting.
06-08-2016 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
1974 isn't ancient history jerk.
If it's before New Coke then yes it is
06-08-2016 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
It's a Jim Crow holdover that's been around long enough that people can pretend like it's sole purpose is something other than keeping black people from voting.
Not sure it's really fair to tie it completely to Jim Crow given that the suit that ended up getting it declared constitutional by SCOTUS was filed in California
06-08-2016 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I have a hard time believing that it's not unconstitutional to deny voting rights to someone who has done time in any way, but I'm sure some right ****wad federal judge decided somewhere along the way that it's perfectly fine so idk
How's this for constitutional
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At 17 years old, my brother got caught with four-and-a-half ounces of cannabis. He was in Texas. He never saw an attorney. He and his mother went in front of the judge. The judge made my brother a felon. My brother spent four-and-a-half years picking cotton for free in Texas. I always stop on that note, and I say it again, that [...] my black 17-year-old brother, spent four-and-a-half years picking cotton for free in Texas to gain his freedom. That was in 1992, not 1892.
And since that was before 1997, he wouldn't be able to have his voting rights restored upon being released. So in the 90's he was a slave who couldn't vote even after being freed. Not even 1/5 of a vote. (Story is unrelated, about a female pot store owner in Colorado.)
06-08-2016 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I have a hard time believing that it's not unconstitutional to deny voting rights to someone who has done time in any way, but I'm sure some right ****wad federal judge decided somewhere along the way that it's perfectly fine so idk
I'd have a hard time believing slavery was legal in America in 2016, but prisoners working for .25 an hour is basically that. I agree though, maybe suspend voting rights while you are doing time but after someone has paid their debt to society they should have the right to vote.
06-08-2016 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Not sure it's really fair to tie it completely to Jim Crow given that the suit that ended up getting it declared constitutional by SCOTUS was filed in California

Jim Crow is where felony disenfranchisement really got going. It may have taken a life afterwards it was originally very much tied to it.
06-08-2016 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sweep single
maybe suspend voting rights while you are doing time

why would you even do that?
06-08-2016 , 04:55 PM
One reason is the towns the prisons are located wouldn't want the prisoners to form a voting bloc in local elections. Of course, the prisoners are residents of the prison town while doing their time.
06-08-2016 , 05:23 PM
Now if you want a war on voting end caucuses. How is it fair someone that works or elderly has to waste 3 hours of time to vote. I generally like them because they give fringe candidates a chance to bump in the polls. But they are not fair.

The true war is everyone that votes should have a voter id. How is 10 seconds of time, disenfranchising anyone when some of these polling places you have to wait 1 hour to vote. You have to be an american citizen to vote anyways or you are committing a felony.

The only war is complete corruption in the democrat party from corrupt judges, getting audited, to giving preferences to hiring and promotions depending whether you support the party. The want to suspend the law of the land to have more slaves to work in their cities below minimum wage.
06-08-2016 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
Now if you want a war on voting end caucuses. How is it fair someone that works or elderly has to waste 3 hours of time to vote. I generally like them because they give fringe candidates a chance to bump in the polls. But they are not fair.

The true war is everyone that votes should have a voter id. How is 10 seconds of time, disenfranchising anyone when some of these polling places you have to wait 1 hour to vote. You have to be an american citizen to vote anyways or you are committing a felony.

The only war is complete corruption in the democrat party from corrupt judges, getting audited, to giving preferences to hiring and promotions depending whether you support the party. The want to suspend the law of the land to have more slaves to work in their cities below minimum wage.
No
06-08-2016 , 05:39 PM
What happens to the voting rights of felons that were sentenced for something that was later legalized or at least doesn't meet the felony treshold anymore?
06-08-2016 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
Now if you want a war on voting end caucuses. How is it fair someone that works or elderly has to waste 3 hours of time to vote. I generally like them because they give fringe candidates a chance to bump in the polls. But they are not fair.

The true war is everyone that votes should have a voter id. How is 10 seconds of time, disenfranchising anyone when some of these polling places you have to wait 1 hour to vote. You have to be an american citizen to vote anyways or you are committing a felony.

The only war is complete corruption in the democrat party from corrupt judges, getting audited, to giving preferences to hiring and promotions depending whether you support the party. The want to suspend the law of the land to have more slaves to work in their cities below minimum wage.
Online voting is the way to go. I'd guess that would increase voter turn out at least 100%.
06-08-2016 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sweep single
Online voting is the way to go. I'd guess that would increase voter turn out at least 100%.
And thats why republicans will never let it happen.
06-08-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sweep single
Online voting is the way to go. I'd guess that would increase voter turn out at least 100%.
Which is exactly why the Republicans will cockblock it. More democracy = fewer GOP candidates getting elected.

Edit: damn you, Noodle
06-08-2016 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
The true war is everyone that votes should have a voter id. How is 10 seconds of time, disenfranchising anyone when some of these polling places you have to wait 1 hour to vote. You have to be an american citizen to vote anyways or you are committing a felony.
I'd be happy to institute a mandatory national ID card for this purpose. Actually, I'd prefer to have a national photo ID database where you can go to a polling station and they can look you up without having to present some sort of ID card.
06-09-2016 , 02:20 AM
Hard to even fathom how hard Republicans would fight something like that. "Government wants to track you with the mark of The Beast!"
07-01-2016 , 10:19 AM
Republican control in Wisconsin is shrinking voter turnout in order to win.

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Todd Allbaugh became a Republican in 1980, when he was in the fifth grade, after meeting his local GOP chairman. He still has a Ronald Reagan poster with the slogan “Let’s Make America Great Again.” Allbaugh worked for Representative Steve Gunderson, the first openly gay Republican in Congress, and then became chief of staff for State Senator Dale Schultz, whom the Madison Capital Times called “the last remaining moderate Republican in the state legislature.”

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He received a rude awakening when he attended a closed-door meeting of the State Senate’s Republican caucus in 2011. It was considering the new voter-ID bill, a top priority for Wisconsin Republicans since the 2000 and ’04 presidential elections, which the GOP lost by less than 1 percent. The party blamed the losses (without evidence) on voter fraud by Democrats in Milwaukee, along with a high turnout among black and young voters.

“We’ve got to think about what this could mean for the neighborhoods around Milwaukee and the college campuses around the state,” said State Senator Mary Lazich. Seventy percent of Wisconsin’s black population, which voted for Obama over Mitt Romney 94 to 6 percent, lives in Milwaukee, while 18- to 24-year-olds favored Obama over Romney by 26 points.

Schultz asked his colleagues to consider not whether the bill would help the GOP, but how it would impact the voting rights of Wisconsinites. Then-State Senator Glenn Grothman cut him off: “What I’m concerned about is winning. We better get this done while we have the opportunity.” (When asked during the state’s April 5 primary why Republicans would carry Wisconsin in 2016, Grothman, who had since been elected to the US Congress, replied: “Now we have photo ID.”) In a federal voting-rights case, Allbaugh named two other GOP senators who were “giddy” and “politically frothing at the mouth” over the bill.
https://www.thenation.com/article/th...ng-is-working/

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 07-01-2016 at 10:27 AM.
07-03-2016 , 04:12 AM
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... 17 states have new restrictions in place for the first time
You would think with the all the new Voter Suppression rules in effect Trump would be a chinch to win.
07-03-2016 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by highstakesfan
You would think with the all the new Voter Suppression rules in effect Trump would be a chinch to win.
They're meant to operate on the margins. With a league average Republican they potentially would have had a large impact. Trump ain't that.
07-03-2016 , 05:21 PM
Come one dvaut, the gig is up. We all know Republicans have spent $100s of millions and countless hours of political capital installing new voter ID laws, shutting down DMVs, ending early voting, ending Sunday voting - despite zero evidence of in-person voter fraud - because they care so deeply about the integrity of the voting process. They aren't looking to gain anything out of this.

Occam's Razor bro.
07-04-2016 , 07:47 PM
There are always marginal Congressional races. Voter ID matters.
07-04-2016 , 07:51 PM
LOL
07-29-2016 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mmbt0ne
lol GOP

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