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11-04-2014 , 08:57 PM
When googling for the story of the kid trying to vote as his dad, I found this:

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Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbott, a Republican, launched an investigation in 2005 to uncover what he called an "epidemic" of voter fraud. But reviews of Abbott's investigation two years later yielded no cases of voter impersonation fraud. A Dallas Morning News review in 2008 found the 26 cases prosecuted were all against Democrats, most involved blacks and Hispanics, and typically involved people who helped elderly voters with mail-in ballots, but failed to follow state law by signing their names and addresses on the envelopes.

Abbot's investigation was paid for with a $1.4 million Justice Department crime-fighting grant.
Seems like a good use of $1.4 million!
11-04-2014 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornboy
When googling for the story of the kid trying to vote as his dad, I found this:



Seems like a good use of $1.4 million!
Well of course it was. How else could he have stopped the 0 instances of fraud he stopped.
11-04-2014 , 09:41 PM
forget trying to dupe conservative rubes with fake ads for gold, I gotta get me some of that sweet, sweet voter fraud rube money!
11-04-2014 , 11:16 PM
Congrats to the GOP on winning a number of close races by disenfranchising poor black people! Job well done *******s!
11-05-2014 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Honestly I don't care how the person gets their money, hand them 50 dollars when they walk out of the booth, give a tax credit, or gold bullion.
How bout just move in to the 21st century and have an online voting option.
11-05-2014 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JAAASH
Yes, but you are presupposing that they will just quit looking into fraud. I don't believe they would do this without mandatory ID laws being passed, which would then save all this money you want to save. Do YOU see why?
Small govt conservative itt
08-05-2015 , 11:22 PM
Bump for news.

Texas ID Law Called Breach of Voting Rights Act

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A federal appeals panel ruled Wednesday that a strict voter identification law in Texas discriminated against blacks and Hispanics and violated the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — a decision that election experts called an important step toward defining the reach of the landmark law.

The case is one of a few across the country that are being closely watched in legal circles after a 2013 Supreme Court decision that blocked the voting act’s most potent enforcement tool, federal oversight of election laws in numerous states, including Texas, with histories of racial discrimination.
08-06-2015 , 12:20 AM


"In a sweeping ruling in 2014, a federal district court in Texas agreed with the plaintiffs about the effect the law had on minority voters.

But it also said legislators had intentionally adopted a discriminatory law, a conclusion that could have led to a restoration of federal oversight over Texas voting laws.

Although the appeals court upheld the finding of discriminatory effect, the three-judge panel said the lower court must re-examine its conclusion that Texas acted with discriminatory purpose.


The lower court's decision was upheld, but it's scope was unfortunately narrowed. What I like to see in such cases is lower court citing additional information and then reaching the same conclusion. However, any three judge panel of the Fifth Circuit is likely to include at least one right wing loon, often two, so it may be best to stand on partial victory.

What the lower court found, which was presumably an unintended and unforeseeable consequence of the law:

"In a 147-page opinion issued in the fall of 2014 after a two-week trial, a district court judge, Nelva Gonzales Ramos, said the law “creates an unconstitutional burden on the right to vote” and blocked its enforcement.

She noted the lack of evidence that voter fraud was a threat and cited expert testimony that about 600,000 Texans, mainly poor, black and Hispanic, lacked the newly required IDs and often faced obstacles in obtaining them
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08-06-2015 , 11:36 AM
Good, all these **** laws should be struck down
08-06-2015 , 11:40 AM
facebookers gonna be confirmed furious
08-07-2015 , 09:29 AM
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-...e27951310.html

Kansas mathematician and statistician says voting machine results don't look right statistically and there might be some indication of fraud at the machine level. The government doesn't feel that that should be looked into.
08-07-2015 , 04:34 PM
Yeah this is a big third rail for government. I can see why neither side wants to erode the public's trust in the voting process with a media ****storm. I just someone somewhere is looking into this quietly behind the scenes.

But given what I know from the inner workings of the tech world - unless someone's butt is directly on the line - it's very hard to get anyone to take action on even glaringly obvious potential security holes.
08-07-2015 , 04:45 PM
what are the chances the pres election is completely rigged?
08-07-2015 , 05:01 PM
I suspect it's a lot more likely at the primary level. Think about it - what checks and balances are there to the party establishment rigging it for their candidate?

The US election system is such a joke. We need an amendment that all federal positions are handled uniformly across every state - procedures, district drawing, ID laws, etc. I'd be fine with voter ID if it came with uniform election and districting standards as well.
08-07-2015 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-...e27951310.html

Kansas mathematician and statistician says voting machine results don't look right statistically and there might be some indication of fraud at the machine level. The government doesn't feel that that should be looked into.
Why doesn't the article tell what makes them not look right statically. I was hoping for some mathematical analysis but I was left disappointed.

Any links?
08-08-2015 , 03:42 PM
http://bethclarkson.com/?cat=4

Your Google-Fu is lacking, young grasshopper
08-09-2015 , 02:33 AM
Got into an argument with someone today about voting. They were trying to defend voting fir mitt romney, It was like talking to a brick wall.
08-09-2015 , 07:03 AM
Not sure how related
08-28-2015 , 09:22 AM
Step 1 in suppressing minority turnout: Require picture ID to vote

Step 2: Make it nearly impossible to obtain a picture ID if you do not already have one

Alabama will close all but four (4) driver's license offices in the entire state

http://www.wsfa.com/story/29869389/a...to-remain-open

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Lines at your driver's license office could be longer after Oct. 1.

The Alabama Law Enforcement Agency said budget cuts will result in closing driver's license offices across the state.

The agency said the cut will be in phases, with 33 offices closed during the first wave.

In January 2016, a further 12 offices will close. By March, all but four offices in the entire state will shut their doors.

The offices that will remain open, ALEA said, are Huntsville, Montgomery, Mobile, and Birmingham.

"Unfortunately, what citizens can expect are longer lines, oftentimes scheduling way in advance to get an opportunity," said ALEA Secretary Spencer Collier. "Probably the worst is that some... are going to have to travel a significant distance to be able to get that driver's license service."

For those needing to renew existing licenses, you are able to do so online.
08-28-2015 , 10:25 AM
Hey, how hard is it to catch a bus to wherever you need to go to get the license? Probably only a few hours at most. I've never met anyone who doesn't have at least a few hours to spare. Plus everyone I know also already has a license so you can renew online. Problem solved as far as I can tell.
08-28-2015 , 10:30 AM
Florida has been surreptitiously doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale and without all the fanfare. The busiest office outside of Orlando closed last year. It was also the largest office and served the most people of any office in my county. There was a huge parking lot outside where they also conducted road testing.

It was just a happy coincidence that it was placed right in the middle of a lower-middle-class neighborhood.

There is another office in the same county that somehow survived closing despite being approximately 1/5 of the size of that one which also did not have the area to conduct road testing at all. It sits just outside of a gated community.
08-28-2015 , 10:53 AM
Some red meat was dropped today in the form of a report that 10 Alabama counties have more voters on the rolls than they have eligible citizens. Cue Alabama's conservatives using their sixth sense to analyze the results.

Oh it was a nationwide report, so expect to see dead people voting on talk radio in a state near you.
08-28-2015 , 11:20 AM
Seems trivially easy to verify whether or not the dead are voting, like even the rural precincts check your name off the list when you show up to vote.

But where's the fun in that?
08-28-2015 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12

Alabama will close all but four (4) driver's license offices in the entire state
That's insane...I live in a town of about 200k and there is 5 or 6 DMV's... 4 for the whole state???
08-28-2015 , 01:42 PM
Just read a story from some local CBS affiliate on FB which kind of alluded in a tongue-in-cheek manner that this is something ALEA is threatening in order to force the legislature to address their budget woes. I guess we will see by the end of the year if they go through with the closures.

Map of AL for reference


      
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