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04-22-2016 , 06:36 PM

#9351

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bdiddy131313

Dids said I am if she reports it so Im going to get consent in the future now so it has helped just trying to be gto about things these days

Better record her answer imo, just to be safe (although even that's not foolproof.)

04-22-2016 , 06:46 PM

#9352

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Yeah man, you busted me. I can't show you an alternate reality. Chessmated.

lol alternate reality isn't needed, any evidence will do. I'm sure you have some, and you're not making wild unfounded claims.

04-22-2016 , 06:48 PM

#9353

Merlin's Pants

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 622

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

nope, it doesn't. It has an 'it ended up happening', a quick reversal, and a continuation of the relationship. That's not rape by any reasonable definition, but that's fine with you because you're literally for unreasonable definitions of rape

He "ended up penetrating" her. Not "it ended up happening". Just, fyi.

04-22-2016 , 06:48 PM

#9354

goofyballer

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Wild, unfounded claims like your brilliant "you guys are literally arguing for accidental rape" earlier?

04-22-2016 , 06:49 PM

#9355

SMP543

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Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oroku$aki

Better record her answer imo, just to be safe (although even that's not foolproof.)

How about video recording of consent before every escalating action? Seems like that is the only way to be safe.

04-22-2016 , 06:53 PM

#9356

bdiddy131313

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,609

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMP543

How about video recording of consent before every escalating action? Seems like that is the only way to be safe.

consent can be withdrawn at any time

04-22-2016 , 07:01 PM

#9357

Oroku$aki

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This one's a quick study, two hours ago he didn't know if he was a rapist.

04-22-2016 , 07:04 PM

#9358

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

I'd love to see another case, not involving something like statutory rape/prisoners/mental disabilities, where the person was convicted while the victim said the act was not rape.

Bro no one was convicted of anything here. Some guy got suspended from college.

04-22-2016 , 07:06 PM

#9359

Merlin's Pants

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Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 622

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/04/1...onsensual-sex/

Quote:

On Oct. 23 Neal and the woman went to a movie. Afterward, Neal said the woman performed oral sex on him in his car. In text messages afterward the woman told Neal her roommates “said they saw us doing stuff.”

Neal responded: “like what?? Kissing.”

“No … like more than kissing,” the woman texted back. “I’m so embarrassed … not gunna lie.”

Quote:

“She was very adamant in pulling me close and wanting me to have intercourse with her. At the beginning, when I was lying on top I didn’t have a condom.” Neal said the woman said she was not on birth control.

“I immediately got off her and asked if I should put a condom on and she said yes and then we engaged in sexual intercourse. She never said no and never told me to stop.”

Quote:

The next morning, Oct. 26, a friend of the woman’s noticed a hickey on the woman’s neck. When she learned the woman had sex with a prominent football player, she surmised her friend had been raped and reported that to university authorities. Neal’s girlfriend texted him: ‘I’ve been running around all day talking to so many people, trying to make things right!!! One of the other Athletic Training students screwed me over! … She went behind my back and told my AT advisor stuff that wasn’t true!!! I’m trying so hard to fix it all. I want to tell you what’s going on. Please!”

Quote:

“I hope you know I don’t think you did any of that, right? I may be acting like the typical girl who just got raped, but I hope you know I don’t think I did,” the woman said.

Quote:

the woman told an investigator, “Grant was lying on top of me and I told him that I did not want to have sexual intercourse with him that is unprotected because I am not on any birth control. Although I told Grant no, Grant ended up penetrating me … and I told him to stop. He stopped and pulled out from me immediately. Grant then said to me that if he used a condom, would I be okay with that. I told Grant yes to the condom. Grant placed on the condom and we began to have protected sex at this point which I was okay with it.”

I mean, his story is completely different from hers when she's on his side. There's a lot fishy here, though I agree that it's not rape. Which is also what the school thought because they charged him with sexual misconduct and suspended him until the woman is finished with school. So he didn't technically get kicked out.

I do wonder what the ellipses represent, what part of her quote are they cutting out?

04-22-2016 , 07:25 PM

#9360

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dids

It's common ****ing sense that you should be more careful with somebody you just met than with your damn wife. The question is an idiot's idea of a gotcha.

You sound like a marital rape apologist.

04-22-2016 , 07:41 PM

#9361

[Phill]

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I am sure ikes will be along soon to pat himself on the back now there is proof she is also a lying whore for saying something different than him when she included the rape and he didn't.

Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk

04-22-2016 , 09:09 PM

#9362

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,097

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

lol alternate reality isn't needed, any evidence will do. I'm sure you have some, and you're not making wild unfounded claims.

Just a super quick recap:

1) This thread is titled "Drunk Sex and Rape" because ikes, incorrectly, believed some colleges had rules that made drunk sex = rape. When asked for a single college with such a policy, he demurred, instead insisting that "males were being discriminated against" and just raging that liberals were ignoring a problem he could've even ****ing explain.

2) The OP of this thread is a ****ing chain email about misandry.

04-22-2016 , 09:39 PM

#9363

ikestoys

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

You couldn't tell a more transparent lie. Also just confirmed you have no good response to that post.

04-22-2016 , 09:50 PM

#9364

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

What in the hell constitutes evidence of **** that hasn't happened yet? You can't be serious asking for the imaginary and claiming victory.

04-22-2016 , 10:31 PM

#9365

ikestoys

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

There's actual evidence easily available for reoffending rates for various crimes. What's the rate for just the tip wookie?

04-22-2016 , 10:36 PM

#9366

campfirewest

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Dude is guilty. I think that mainly because he is a CSU student.

Spoiler:

04-22-2016 , 10:39 PM

#9367

MrWookie

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

There's actual evidence easily available for reoffending rates for various crimes. What's the rate for just the tip wookie?

Lol. The data don't exist unless you will accept rape statistics.

04-22-2016 , 10:40 PM

#9368

goofyballer

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Is this real life? Is this really how ikes is going to spend his last months on 2+2, asking for imaginary crime rates?

04-22-2016 , 11:57 PM

#9369

ikestoys

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Lol. The data don't exist unless you will accept rape statistics.

So you mean you don't have any actual evidence to suggest that there's going to be an epidemic of just the tip and that your claim of possible future harm is bull****?

Wow. How surprising.

04-22-2016 , 11:58 PM

#9370

ikestoys

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Is this real life? Is this really how ikes is going to spend his last months on 2+2, asking for imaginary crime rates?

I'll do whatever the **** I want, and if someone says they should ruin a kids life over an imaginary crime because of an imaginary recurrence of the crime, then I'm going to call them out for their bull****.

04-23-2016 , 12:03 AM

#9371

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

So you mean you don't have any actual evidence to suggest that there's going to be an epidemic of just the tip and that your claim of possible future harm is bull****?

Wow. How surprising.

A guy doing again something you think he was 100 percent OK and blameless in doing the first time, and which in this alternative reality he doesn't get punished for? Yeah, I am obviously way out of line suggesting he may do it again.

04-23-2016 , 12:14 AM

#9372

SenorKeeed

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Uhhhhhhh the student in question hasn't been charged with any crime. He got suspended from college...

04-23-2016 , 12:21 AM

#9373

campfirewest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Uhhhhhhh the student in question hasn't been charged with any crime. He got suspended from college...

Why would they suspend him if he hasn't been charged with a crime? Is just the tip rape legal?

04-23-2016 , 12:23 AM

#9374

MrWookie

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Cheating on tests isn't illegal, but kids get kicked out for it.

04-23-2016 , 12:24 AM

#9375

SenorKeeed

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

Um you can get suspended for all sorts of **** that isn't a crime. Cheating on a test isn't a crime but you can get suspended or expelled for it. It probably isn't illegal to go around calling people racial slurs on the quad but I'll bet you could get expelled pretty quick doing so.

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