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12-06-2016 , 07:14 PM
That's kind of been happening for a long time suzzer. It's not anything new.

I do think the medical studies on drug effectiveness are heavily flawed.
12-06-2016 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
Lol DIB. Risking everything you have and everything you ever will have to save some stranger is a bit more than "not letting brown people burn."
Except that act is literally the primary job description of the people being discussed. Their #1 priority is not letting people burn to death.

Jon's suggesting that firefighters not opting out of saving black people from burning buildings is evidence of racism's non presence, which is...lol

I'd also criticize the idea that a random good citizen rescuing a black family from a burning car is evidence of a racism-free person.

Like 1 through 10, how racist would you have to be to be willing to save an unconscious white guy from a burning car but PASS in the same situation if the guy is black, letting him burn to death in front of you?!

I'm thinking 10. LOL Falcon, stick to one liners.
12-06-2016 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
That's kind of been happening for a long time suzzer. It's not anything new.

I do think the medical studies on drug effectiveness are heavily flawed.
Am I crazy to think drug advertising should be aimed at doctors, not consumers?
12-06-2016 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Am I crazy to think drug advertising should be aimed at doctors, not consumers?
That's what hot pharmaceutical sales reps are for!
12-06-2016 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Yes but what are the implications of that? Manufacturers aren't going to put self-driving cars on the road until they're certain that they won't be losing giant lawsuits over them. I think a new law or damage caps or something will be needed.
Sure they will. Every time a car company changes an aspect of their design they risk a huge lawsuit. They do it all the time anyways so they can sell cars. Companies are introducing all kinds of driver assist technologies that could easily get them sued if they screw them up. They just try not to screw them up.
12-06-2016 , 08:35 PM
NSFW-ish I guess.

Spoiler:
12-06-2016 , 08:36 PM
12-06-2016 , 08:37 PM
So Trump wanting to financially punish Boeing for them not being blind sycophants... What's the legality behind that, exactly?
12-06-2016 , 08:48 PM
Pentagon covered up $125 billion in waste
12-06-2016 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Pentagon covered up $125 billion in waste
Taking shots at the government for waste is much easier than reform but it's not without merit.
12-06-2016 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Pentagon covered up $125 billion in waste
Yeah maybe, but probably not.

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But that's not the main thing that makes me skeptical about this. My big problem is that this is a McKinsey report, and I have a fairly cynical view of McKinsey-driven "process improvement" blather. For example, the report suggests that the Pentagon can save loads of money by increasing its back-office productivity by 4-8 percent per year. "Private sector industries commonly show similar gains," they say merrily, so why not the Pentagon?

This is exactly the kind of thing that gives business consultants a bad name. Do private sector businesses really show routine annual productivity gains like this in their back-office operations? I doubt it very much. And even if they do, can the federal government do the same things that private industry does? Hard to say. In any case, it turns out that McKinsey's biggest finding is that the Pentagon is spending more on its contracts than it should. Here's how they propose to fix this:



The buzzword-to-reality ratio here is astronomical. I could have written this without knowing a thing about Pentagon procurement. Here's the McKinsey timeline:



Seriously? They think the Pentagon can massively transform its entire procurement process in eight months, at which point, they blandly say, it's time to "Validate savings and begin renegotiating contracts"? That's insane. I used to work for a pretty well-run private-sector company with 200 employees, and I don't think we could have done this in eight months. Hell, later on McKinsey even admits that "only about 17% of fundamental change projects deliver their full potential." But they blithely recommend full steam ahead anyway, because success will come with:

Strong, consistent top leadership
Clear vision, aligned with strategy and widely communicated
Effective governance structure with clear decision-making authority
Defined accountability at all levels with reward and enforcement mechanisms
Engaged workforce and supportive stakeholders

This is cribbed out of a book you can buy at Barnes & Noble for $29.95, and it basically describes the platonic ideal of a corporation. No one ever has all this stuff, and certainly not a gigantic federal bureaucracy.
12-06-2016 , 11:09 PM
Piketty strikes again

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An economy that fails to deliver growth for half of its people for an entire generation is bound to generate discontent with the status quo and a rejection of establishment politics.

...

As shown in Figure 2, these two income groups basically switched their income shares, with about 8 points of national income transferred from the bottom 50 percent to the top 1 percent. The gains made by the 1 percent would be large enough to fully compensate for the loss of the bottom 50 percent, a group 50 times larger.

To understand how unequal the United States is today, consider the following fact. In 1980, adults in the top 1 percent earned on average 27 times more than bottom 50 percent of adults. Today they earn 81 times more. This ratio of 1 to 81 is similar to the gap between the average income in the United States and the average income in the world’s poorest countries, among them the war-torn Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, and Burundi.*
http://equitablegrowth.org/research-...two-countries/
12-06-2016 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Am I crazy to think drug advertising should be aimed at doctors, not consumers?
Well they do that too. There are very well paid sellers of medical equipment and medicine who invite doctors to dinners, paid talks at conferences, etc...

I think most doctors are aware of the conflict of interest but its kind of like Hilary's paid speeches or say The Most Interesting Man in the World commercial for Dos XX, all they need is to keep it in your consciousness.
12-07-2016 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Am I crazy to think drug advertising should be aimed at doctors, not consumers?
I think most of their promotion $$$ do actually go to persuading doctors, but there's probably some value for them in letting people know there's a product out there for whatever they have. Like, if you didn't know boner pills were a thing, you might not think to talk to your doctor about ED treatments in the first place.
12-07-2016 , 12:15 AM
DIB with literally the hottest of takes thinks a firefighter's job is to burn to death.
12-07-2016 , 12:16 AM
Jet fuel can't melt steel racists might be hotter, but that is better left for UNCHAINED! imo.
12-07-2016 , 12:19 AM
TV Land is amazing. The last time I watched it was some late-series episode of Happy Days, after they had literally jumped the shark I think. The episode featured the guys hornily chasing after stewardesses, and a stripper jumping out of a cake who was basically sexually assaulted by 2016 standards.

So I was just watching a very heartwarming episode of Andy Griffith. Otis miraculously sobers up to receive an award, on behalf of his late ancestor, from the town historical society. In the final joke - the mayor proposes a toast. Otis grabs a glass then looks at Andy and starts to put it back. In sage advice Andy says "Go ahead Otis, I believe Nathan (the late ancestor) would have wanted it that way."

Andy Griffith drunk enabler. Happy Days guys - horny stripper assaulters. What series from my childhood is next to be destroyed? Beverly Hillbillies casual racists? Gilligan's Island condones animal cruelty? Petticoat Junction is actually a bordello?

Plot for the episode on now: hardworking farm girl wants to wear makeup and smell nice. The nice lady working at the drugstore (and I think Andy's love interest - 20 years younger IRL of course) wants to give some to her, but the girl's gruff father won't allow it.

It turns out the daughter was all the gruff father had, and he needed her work on the farm too much to let her run around in makeup and dresses. Andy resolved the situation by convincing the gruff father to pimp out his now pretty daughter to get a young man to marry her and become another farmhand on his farm. Amazing.


(audience applauds)

The final scene has the daughter buying a bunch more makeup and wearing fancy white gloves. We all learned a valuable lesson - that women should be dude magnets, not farmhands.

Last edited by suzzer99; 12-07-2016 at 12:36 AM. Reason: scene not shown: later the 4 farmhands gang rape her
12-07-2016 , 12:35 AM
Does TV Land show the M*A*S*H episodes with Spearchucker Jones?
12-07-2016 , 12:36 AM
I would assume.
12-07-2016 , 01:14 AM
Is there an Education thread in this forum? I didn't find one.
12-07-2016 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
TV Land is amazing. The last time I watched it was some late-series episode of Happy Days, after they had literally jumped the shark I think. The episode featured the guys hornily chasing after stewardesses, and a stripper jumping out of a cake who was basically sexually assaulted by 2016 standards.

So I was just watching a very heartwarming episode of Andy Griffith. Otis miraculously sobers up to receive an award, on behalf of his late ancestor, from the town historical society. In the final joke - the mayor proposes a toast. Otis grabs a glass then looks at Andy and starts to put it back. In sage advice Andy says "Go ahead Otis, I believe Nathan (the late ancestor) would have wanted it that way."

Andy Griffith drunk enabler. Happy Days guys - horny stripper assaulters. What series from my childhood is next to be destroyed? Beverly Hillbillies casual racists? Gilligan's Island condones animal cruelty? Petticoat Junction is actually a bordello?

Plot for the episode on now: hardworking farm girl wants to wear makeup and smell nice. The nice lady working at the drugstore (and I think Andy's love interest - 20 years younger IRL of course) wants to give some to her, but the girl's gruff father won't allow it.

It turns out the daughter was all the gruff father had, and he needed her work on the farm too much to let her run around in makeup and dresses. Andy resolved the situation by convincing the gruff father to pimp out his now pretty daughter to get a young man to marry her and become another farmhand on his farm. Amazing.


(audience applauds)

The final scene has the daughter buying a bunch more makeup and wearing fancy white gloves. We all learned a valuable lesson - that women should be dude magnets, not farmhands.
Pepe le Pew literally chains up a female in his house to be his rape slave. We are meant to find this funny.
12-07-2016 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
I really recommend giving this a read, along with a number of the links contained in the post.

Paul Thompson on Automation via Democratic Underground

And for another decent primer, these two pieces from waitbutwhy.


The AI Revolution: The Road to Superintelligence - Part 1


Part 2

These issues are very important to me (and of course the world, imo) and have become a focus in my life over the last couple years and will be continuing into the future.
The AI revolution article on waitbutwhy sent me down the rabbit hole for the last 24 hours. I can't stop reading. Tim Urban's writing is thorough, yet easy to digest.

There's an amazing 4 part series on Elon Musk's businesses and their respective industries.

Elon Musk Part 1.

Thank you so much for sharing.
12-07-2016 , 08:14 PM
Ohio passes major anti-abortion law. You can no longer get an abortion after 1.5 months of pregnancy.

All the Trump fans who claimed nothing would happen to abortion sure nailed it. By the way, the election was less than a month ago. This is just the beginning.
12-07-2016 , 08:23 PM
Uh, doesn't Roe guarantee access during the first trimester?
12-07-2016 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Uh, doesn't Roe guarantee access during the first trimester?
Yes. The whole point of this is to re-litigate Roe v. Wade with a Trumpgraded SCOTUS.

      
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