We're exercising sovereignty by having a vote on whether to leave the EU. Another way to exercise sovereignty is to elect a government that carries out your wishes to leave the EU or to stay in it. Having no sovereignty would be being unable to do either of these things, therefore we currently have sovereignty.

The clients of people-traffickers are illegals, paying the traffickers five-figure sums, many times the price of legitimate plane, rail or boat tickets for... some reason. Organised crime is fine with you, is it, diebitter? Under the EU Dublin Agreement, the UK can return illegals to their initial EU state of entry for vetting. After Brexit, absent a replacement deal, that won't be possible, making the UK a target for illegals. If you did not know this (and of course you didn't), you should have done.

Bollocks. Sovereignty is a complex concept and is always diminished or pooled by international agreements which all civilised countries need to engage in. The people who consider sovereignty to be an absolute are the people who tend to be found dead and decomposed in their homes, for embarrassing reasons, when nobody has missed them for months. They will probably have lots of laudatory books about Hitler on their shelves, as Thomas Mair did.

You're not the full shilling, frankly.

Joining a coercive supernational organisation whose final goal is nationhood is not a reasonable compromise of sovreignty

"a coercive supernational organisation"

Isn't that exactly what the United Kingdom is?

Yep

and England?

Props to Mayor Khan for turning the London Eye, amid the New Year fireworks, into a giant EU flag, ultramarine with a coronet of 28 gold stars (they left the lower four of the 32 pods unlit to get the correct number) in solidarity with the 1m EU Londoners and our friends and allies.

Some people are untrollably stupid.

Lol Khan. Pathetic politicking during a national celebration.

I guess we should be glad he didn't crowbar something in to remind us his dad was a bus driver.

Citation needed for Thomas Mair having lots of books on Hitler (his own brother denied him being associated with politics at all let alone nazism).

Sure.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38071894

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ks-court-hears

This article explains the murderer's library, his connections and his interests quite well.

https://www.ft.com/mair

This article has an informative note on the murderer's concealed resentment of his mixed-race half-brother.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7434011.html

It's... interesting that you should try to defend that individual.

These are politically motivated pieces based on press releases from local police and I assume the counter terrorism unit had a heavy hand in this for which I urge caution in trusting at their word, they frequently lie (for instance after they shot dead innocent John Charles de menez on the tube.)
The guardian investigative report does not fit the character presented to the jury :

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ndroidApp_Edge

Independent investigator Richard hall did a remarkable piece exposing how mair was likely a patsy. I am more inclined to believe this than the offcial story. There is more to this than brexit though the argument is that the Brexit climate led mair to kill while shouting Britain first etc. This i find completely absurd and unbelievable.

You are a ****ing moron.

Mair was identified by multiple witnesses. He told the arresting officers, when they found the gun in his bag, 'I'm a political activist.'

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...mas-mair-hears

Both arresting officers were awarded the Queen's Gallantry Medal.



When convicted, Mair asked the judge if he could make a political statement. The judge said no, because he'd declined to give evidence.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-jo-cox-murder

Any chance of another update for an idiot Yank?

Gonna revote? Or crash out without a deal?

MM MD

Still very low chance of crashing out without a deal unless there's a re-vote and we lose to some extreme option.

Favorites are some sort of deal or re-vote (possibly after many events such as extensions, leadership changes, general elections etc)

This isn't correct.

We leave by automatic operation of law on 30th March. Teresa deal is very unlikely to go through parliament and there is no time really to renegotiate anything else.

No deal is the mostly likely outcome.

There's plenty of time for parliament to act to prevent a no deal and it's almost certain they will unless some version of May's deal goes through. EU are desperate to avoid a no deal as well so will accommodate any reasonable request by the uk to extend.

Ironically the main impediment to May's deal going through is that opposition MPs aren't worried about a no-deal scenario because they are confident they have the numbers to prevent it.

A minor but additional point is that if her deal ultimately falls, then May has nothing left to lose with the tory party and she is genuinely (as far as I can see) opposed to a no deal. Her final acts as pm are likely to be passing the situation on in some better way than crashing out.

There's a term I just heard for people obsessed with brexit

Brexperts

Bridiots?

Wait, aren't you obsessed with brexit?

totally.

You can get 2.5 at Betfair on the UK leaving the EU in any shape or form by 29th March, if that's what you believe. Fill yer boots.